It was brought up a while back when the boxset figures were revealed, that it wasn't very Gen2. Now that more figures have shown up that could also be BotCon toys, I had a look at the ratio of actual Gen2 characters in a set that is labelled as Gen2. The result is thinking that this set is wrongly labelled as Gen2, as the majority of figures are European, not Gen2. This follows the recent speculation of a Scorponok redeco and a Hound/Ravage redeco as BotCon toys, throwing out the balance even further away from Gen2. So far known - Spark, Clench, Breakdown, Streetstar/Streetwise, Skybyte. Likely - Gnaw, Rapido, Scorch, Ravage. Possible - Doublepunch, Slicer. When Sorted into their eras: Gen2 original characters/toys: (none) Gen2 redeco of a Gen1 toy/character - Breakdown - Streetwise (called Streetstar for legal reasons) Hasbro Euro Gen1 (later repacked into Gen2) - Spark - Clench - Rapido --------------------------------------- Hasbro Euro Gen1 - Scorch - Slicer - Doublepunch Hasbro Gen1 - Gnaw Robots in Disguise - Skybyte FunPub's Shattered Glass/Mirror-verse - Ravage (IF they decide to rework the character of Streetwise into Streetstar after having to rename it, then that's a JP Gen1 toy, throwing the balance even further away from Gen2 content.) Last year was great to have homages to several Euro characters, as does this year with Pyro/Spark, Clench, Slicer, Doublepunch, Scorch and Rapido. But why not call it a Euro theme, and do a proper committed Gen2 theme later with actual Gen2 Characters? I doubt we'll see another BotCon that homages Gen2, as it's one of the least popular eras by fans. If the 11 figures above are all correct and no others show up, we have: 5 Gen2 toys (Breakdown, Spark, Clench, Streetwise, Rapido) Vs 6 Euro toys (Spark, Clench, Rapido, Scorch, Slicer, Doublepunch) Less than half are Gen2 related. So how many Original toys and characters were actually produced for Gen2 you ask? 36 - Dreadwing, Smokescreen Jolt, Sizzle, Volt, Electro Roadrocket, Roadpig Manta Ray, Leadfoot, Ransack, Powerdive Roadblock, Dirtbag Air Raid, Strafe, Jetfire, Skyjack, Spacecase, Hooligan Highbeam, Firecracker, Doubleclutch, Motormouth, Gearhead, Blowout Ironhide, Meanstreak, Bulletbike, Staxx Jetstorm, Deluge, Gobots, Drench Archforce, Sureshot I wonder if they tried to do redeco homages to some of those 36 Toys/Characters that originated in Gen2, so that this year's set of toys would be considered without a doubt, Generation 2? I know that the BotCon people can't reveal the at-Con toys, but I'd be interested in seeing if anyone can at least say if we will be getting any toys from that list of 36? Or if they were just really unlucky and had every submitted Gen2 homage idea rejected by Hasbro. As it stands, all we have (so far known) is 5 Gen2 characters that originated in Gen1, and the rest from other eras. I'm a huge fan of BotCon (travelled over 300,000kms to 10 BotCons so far), and am keen to get the toys - I'm just puzzled as to the Gen2 theme this year, if it doesn't look like we are getting toys or guests that are Gen2 themed.