Black Convoy/Nemesis Prime list please?

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Scythe, Apr 12, 2008.

  1. Scythe

    Scythe Future Foundation

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Posts:
    4,279
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +9
    I'de like to know of all the different black convoys/nemesis primes out there.

    To my knowledge, I know of the:

    • T.H.S. - 02
    • Black Lio Convoy
    • Nemesis Prime of Big Convoy
    • Slightly Darker Nemesis Prime of Big Convoy
    • Black Armada Prime Nemesis
    • Black Alternator Nemesis Prime, also the one from Wonderfest I believe
    • Scourge from RiD of course
    • Scourge spychanger as well

    And yeah... After that, I have no idea. I'm attempting to somewhat collect as many of these guys as possible, so let me know, thanks.

    Also, and photos of unmentioned black convoys are welcomed, I'de love to actually see them as well.

    If anyone also has any info on the Sand Diego Bot Con release of a Black Convoy painted Classic Prime, let me know as well.
     
  2. Rijie78

    Rijie78 Vinyl junkie.

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2008
    Posts:
    2,032
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +273
    IIRC, there was an official Takara black G1 Convoy, issued at a Japanese toy convention at some point back in the mists of time. Clearly there's black KOs of the G1 Prime on eBay, but that convention one was the only legit version - so that's another for your list, but it's probably absurd money...
     
  3. Cerberus

    Cerberus Shockwave loyalist

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2007
    Posts:
    1,701
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Location:
    Brittany (France)
    Likes:
    +817
    Black optimus prime G1
    Black optimus prime G1 style robot masters
    Black wst optimus prime
    Nucleon Quest Convoy (power master prime in nemesis color)
    onyx primal botcon 96
    black optimus primal
    black beast convoy (gorilla) robot master
    T.H.S. - 02
    Black Lio Convoy
    Nemesis Prime of Big Convoy
    Slightly Darker Nemesis Prime of Big Convoy
    Black Armada Prime Nemesis
    Micron legend Scourge (us nemesis armada in more deep dark)
    Black Alternator Nemesis Prime
    Black convoy binaltech
    Scourge from RiD
    Scourge spychanger
    Scourge destructicon RID
    Grand scourge (kit jap) Superlink


    i update your liste with my knowledge but i probably forget somes of black convoy
     
  4. flywheels

    flywheels Decepticon Assault Team Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2003
    Posts:
    5,379
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    292
    Location:
    SC
    Likes:
    +15
    Ebay:
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    Don't forget the magazine exclusive of Robot Masters G1 Convoy & Robot Masters LioConvoy...
     
  5. UltraDevmodious

    UltraDevmodious Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Posts:
    1,025
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    In another thread I gave you a link with the only picture we have of that Classics Nemesis Prime to go on for comic-con 08. The only other information I can offer is that if you can't attend, bigbadtoystore.com should have some as well as your local collector shop and of course ebay.

    If you can attend…you will have to hunt down the Hasbro rep to get a ticket…then you will have to go line up to see what times you can stand in line to collect the exclusives.
     
  6. KING KONVOY

    KING KONVOY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2007
    Posts:
    1,920
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +10
    This is called Black Big Convoy
     
  7. SydneyY

    SydneyY @syd_tfw Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Posts:
    11,515
    News Credits:
    74
    Trophy Points:
    276
    Likes:
    +167
    I'm so glad I don't feel the need of getting all Black Primes...Once you started, I'm pretty sure you start buying black version of all characters and Takara loves making them, often as exclusives.

    Having said that I wouldn't mind NQ Convoy, he looks chunky enough to join my Black Convoy/Scourges.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2008
  8. Black Convoy

    Black Convoy Proudly Peruvian Transfan Moderator News Staff

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Posts:
    9,844
    News Credits:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    Likes:
    +20,253
    Ebay:
    Facebook:
    Instagram:
    Black Primes are really adictive.
     
  9. Fr33domgundam

    Fr33domgundam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Posts:
    2,438
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,573
    To clarify your list a little bit:

    G1:
    - Black G1 Convoy (JAFCon exclusive)
    - Nucleon Quest Superconvoy (Black Powermaster Prime) (Toys R Us Japan exclusive)
    - Black WST Prime

    Beast Wars:
    - Onyx Primal (Bat Primal repaint) (Botcon '96 exclusive)
    - Black Lio Convoy
    - Black Big Convoy
    - Universe Nemesis Prime (different Big Convoy repaint) (Target exclusive)

    CarRobots / RiD:
    - CarRobots Black Convoy (G2 Laser Prime repaint)
    - RiD Scourge (different G2 Laser Prime repaint) (Toys R Us exclusive)
    - Destructicon Scourge (G2 Hero Prime repaint) (KB Toys exclusive)
    - Spychanger Scourge (Spychager version of above RiD Scourge)
    - Black Super Fire Convoy (Lucky Draw figure, limited to about 520)

    Micron Densetsu / Armada:
    - STD Scourge (Terebi Magazine mail-away exclusive)
    - (Bendy) Nemesis Prime

    SuperLink / Energon:
    - Pla-Kit Grand Scourge (model kit)

    RobotMasters:
    - Black G1 Convoy (Dengeki Hobby magazine mail-away exclusive)
    - Black Beast Convoy (Hobby Japan magazine mail-away exclusive)
    - Black Lio Convoy (Dengeki Hobby magazine mail-away exclusive)

    Binaltech / Alternators:
    - Alternators #24 Nemesis Prime (SDCC Exclusive)
    - BT-17 Black Convoy (Wonderfest 2007 exclusive)

    Other:
    - Hybrid-Style THS-02B Black G1 Convoy (eHobby exclusive)

    The only reason I can clear up that list is because I have about 90% of the above... I'm an obsessive "black-special-edition repaint" collector...
     
  10. Deceptigtar

    Deceptigtar Sworn Decepticon Assassin

    Joined:
    May 24, 2006
    Posts:
    13,185
    News Credits:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    342
    Likes:
    +191
    Ebay:
    yeah but are these really considered nemesis though?

    Black Lio Convoy
    Black Big Convoy

    or any with the word black in it? or are they just black and still considered an autobot?
     
  11. Fr33domgundam

    Fr33domgundam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Posts:
    2,438
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,573
    I dunno. But Scythe asked for all "Black Convoys", so I figured I'd add those on the list ("Black Lio Convoy" and "Black Big Convoy"). Mind you, I was also debating on whether or not to add Black Rodimus Convoys as well... :p 

    And holy crap I forgot one. A VERY important one. (I'll add him to my previous listing):

    CarRobots / RiD:
    - Black Super Fire Convoy (Lucky Draw figure, limited to about 520)
     
  12. Chaos Convoy

    Chaos Convoy Dai Gurren-Dan member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2002
    Posts:
    1,430
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +827
    Would Galva-Lio Convoy count? Also, Armada Nemesis Prime was a mass-release, not an exclusive. And Universe Nemesis Prime was a Target exclusive, not KB Toys'. There's also a gold and black version of TM Optimus Primal that was a Lucky Draw, although I can't quite remember if it's the full size version or the smaller simplified version of the toy.
     
  13. Fr33domgundam

    Fr33domgundam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Posts:
    2,438
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,573
    Thanks. Changed some of the "extra info notes" on my previous list (Bendy Nemesis and Universe Nemesis).
    I wasn't aware of a Black/Gold TM Primal Lucky Draw, though...
     
  14. Scythe

    Scythe Future Foundation

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Posts:
    4,279
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +9
    Oh wow, thanks guys. Aside from the lucky draw figure and the binaltech nemesis prime, I'll try to snag one of each, thanks again everyone.
     
  15. Pravus Prime

    Pravus Prime Wields Mjolnir!

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2002
    Posts:
    18,883
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    387
    Likes:
    +8,131
    Not really.

    As I recall, though I may be a bit hazy:

    G1:
    - Black G1 Convoy (JAFCon exclusive)

    Bad Guy. Created by Megatron.

    - Nucleon Quest Superconvoy (Black Powermaster Prime) (Toys R Us Japan exclusive)

    Good guy. NQ is Powermaster Prime with special Black Hole armor/coating for high gravity environments and used it to withstand the extreme gravitational forces to acquire Nucleon from the event horizon of a Black Hole.

    - Black WST Prime

    No Story.

    Beast Wars:
    - Onyx Primal (Bat Primal repaint) (Botcon '96 exclusive)

    Good guy.

    - Black Lio Convoy

    Bad guy. Appeared in episode 16 of Beast Wars II, a creation of a black stone which creates an evil version of anything it is exposed to, the same stone created an all black version of BB which was even more evil then BB and later Lio Convoy.

    - Black Big Convoy

    Super Good Guy. Appeared in the manga. Created by Vector Sigma to destroy the invading Blendtrons.

    - Universe Nemesis Prime (different Big Convoy repaint) (Target exclusive)

    Bad guy. A twisted alternate universe version of Prime. Appeared in the Club Comics.

    CarRobots / RiD:
    - CarRobots Black Convoy (G2 Laser Prime repaint)

    Technically both. A good guy until he was altered by Gigatron to be a bad guy, then later reduced to a drone.

    - RiD Scourge (different G2 Laser Prime repaint) (Toys R Us exclusive)

    Pretty much same story.

    - Destructicon Scourge (G2 Hero Prime repaint) (KB Toys exclusive)

    All bad guy now.

    - Spychanger Scourge (Spychager version of above RiD Scourge)

    See above.

    - Black Super Fire Convoy (Lucky Draw figure, limited to about 520)

    No story.

    Micron Densetsu / Armada:
    - STD Scourge (Terebi Magazine mail-away exclusive)

    Bad guy. His minicon is called Sweep!

    - (Bendy) Nemesis Prime

    Bad guy, alternate Unicron/Sideways form.

    SuperLink / Energon:
    - Pla-Kit Grand Scourge (model kit)

    Unknown. He was introduced as an ambiguous character and the story never continued.

    RobotMasters:
    - Black G1 Convoy (Dengeki Hobby magazine mail-away exclusive)
    - Black Beast Convoy (Hobby Japan magazine mail-away exclusive)
    - Black Lio Convoy (Dengeki Hobby magazine mail-away exclusive)

    All good as memory serves.

    Binaltech / Alternators:
    - Alternators #24 Nemesis Prime (SDCC Exclusive)

    Bad guy.

    - BT-17 Black Convoy (Wonderfest 2007 exclusive)

    Mostly bad guy.

    Other:
    - Hybrid-Style THS-02B Black G1 Convoy (eHobby exclusive)

    No story.

    For a time, I was after all of them, but with the model kits and the outrageous prices for Black Fire Convoy, I've become less of a completist, though I do have most of them. I also saw a redundancy with getting both Alternator and Binaltech Black Convoys, so just got Nemesis Prime.

    Oh, and my Nucleon Quest SuperConvoy is wearing the God Bomber armor from God Ginrai, and looks pretty snazzy for the record. A giant brick, but a snazzy one. Like Fr33domgundam, I have around 90% of the list.
     
  16. Scythe

    Scythe Future Foundation

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Posts:
    4,279
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +9
    Doesn't the back of the box that the T.H.S. - 02 comes in explain Optimus turning all black? It's in Japanese, so I can't read what's goin' on.
     
  17. flux convoy

    flux convoy RIP Botcon.

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2004
    Posts:
    3,450
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    Spinning my wheels into the void.
    Likes:
    +2,276
    Ebay:
    Black WST Convoy is unofficial product made by a KO group. Just a note for the list. Otherwise seems pretty comprehensive. I have the majority of these too. Only missing Black Big Convoy, whose after-market price is effing stupid since it was a widely released store exclusive.
     
  18. twee

    twee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2007
    Posts:
    1,116
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +4
    EFF, is that the system they're going to stick by? Pretty damned lame system, if you ask me. In the midst of the chaos, someone could easily get two, three or four tickets and be able to go through the line numerous times for numerous purchases.
     
  19. Scythe

    Scythe Future Foundation

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Posts:
    4,279
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +9
    Ech, that's lame.