Howdy all, Ok...some of you know me (from other boards) and Im sure those of you who even vaguely remember me from some of my posts here in the past (and those that know me from elsewhere), know my extreme hatred for Michael Bays Transformers.... I watched the first movie when it was released and shredded it quite happily. Now I was not a Geewunner stuck wanting everyone to look the same, far from it. But I loathed the redesigns and made no bones about speaking my opinion on it. For that I was lumped into the Geewunner crowd. I welcomed redesigns just not the extent they were taken. I was hoping everyone would have been a shadow of their original forms like Prime was and was pretty vocal on how Prime got the G1 nod but no one else did... I had no problems with the retelling of their history, I mean come in, every cartoon/comic that comes out is a retelling. If we arent used to that by now we all need to just give it up. No, my biggest thing was you couldnt recognize anyone but Prime and Bumblebee.... In all fairness there were some things I did like with TF1. I did like Ironhide and Ratchets redesign. Prime was ok and that was as far as it went. So then TF 2 comes out...of course Im not going to watch it. I read reviews from fans and it sounded like a pile of crap on a piece of film. So its been a while, havent thought of the movie, the flame wars I went through elsewhere, the bannings, the arguments, the cut downs etc etc. I had put the Bay movies behind me and went on. Then the other night (as Im sure all of you know) TF 1 was on ABC... I decided to watch it. I sat down with a truly open mind, put G1 out of my mind and just decided to watch it. I really liked it O_O Yes you read that right... A neighbor has TF 2 on DVD. I borrowed it and watched it yesterday. I thought it was really good. O_O Yes you read that right as well. LOL Does this mean that I like Bayformers now? I dunno but they are good movies. The more I see Ironhide the more I like him, design and persona revemp and all. I actually do like Bumblebee and this Bee is no VW and could never be one. (In my defense I was one of the ones that never said Bee had to be a VW, ok. But I did think a Camaro was pushing it at first). Prime is of course ok. I liked Primes redesign from the get go but of course no one saw that cause everyone was too busy throwing me into the Geewunners group... Now I still think /that/ Starscream is skank on a stick and seems a rather mockery of his persona and Im glad the /real/ Starscream isnt in this particular TF telling. This Megatron is cool. I actually didnt have anything against Bays Megatron voice and persona wise in the beginning, just did not care for his design. But watching it last night on TF2 I can actually see a little bit of Megatron in the face. Maybe thats a stretch for some to understand but I can so thats ok. LOL As for the Twins? Heres what might be a shocker; I thought they were funny and had no problem with them at all. Course I cant tell them apart and the one with the two 'teeth' (one being gold) was a bit much but other than that I thought they were funny. They werent overdone IMO but had any more of them been in the movie and they would have been IMO. I didnt see them as 'racist' in the slightest. Wheelie was a riot and I like that Wheelie. Jetfire was 'interesting'. Sideswipe rocked (what little you saw of him) but I had seen his design some time ago and liked it anyway so thats a given. The plot wasn't as bad as I was led to believe it would be but there were some loose ends in it that should have been either finished or thrown on the cutting room floor. I have no opinion either way on the bike femmes. I suppose its one of those story arcs that was never developed. Devs balls was a bit much. Actually that entire Devastator concept needed a lot of work IMO but oh well. That Starscream looked cool with the tattoos on him and I had no problem with Mekala in either movie. I suppose Im the only person who thinks Magen Fox is ok. LOL So, ok... I watched 1 again and 2 for the first time (actually watched it twice) and I liked them. Its not G1 by any means but they were good movies afterall. I will say though that with all the cons almost the same color and general look it is really hard to keep track of whos who in a scene. I wish they would do something about that. Oh yea, Soundwave rocked. His head redo was a G1 nod... too bad megs and ss couldnt get that but oh well. I thought the new Ravage was neat. Shame he got gutted like he did. I was curious though why a scene didnt snap back to Soundwave after that to show his reaction. And the more I see Ironhide the more cool I think he is and Im not a real big IH fan so I suppose thats saying something. No, I dont have any of the toys, doubt I will get any. Though I might end up with an IH at some point, who knows.