Best Photoshop Program To Get?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by GrimlockAutobot, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. GrimlockAutobot

    GrimlockAutobot Volcanicus Torso

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2007
    Posts:
    4,710
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    Somewhere Wearing The Dinobots As Gloves & Boots
    Likes:
    +38
    I'm new to the whole world of photoshop and I need some help. I'm looking for the best program to purchase for my PC.

    As of right now, I know nothing about making my own pics.

    What do you reccomend? I'm looking for one that has lots of different options, makes high quality pics, and if fairly easy to use.

    Thanks to anyone who replies!!
     
  2. Glitcher

    Glitcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Posts:
    746
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    Uh... Photoshop? :dunce 
     
  3. Joe Moore

    Joe Moore Is Not Jim... Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2003
    Posts:
    14,474
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +39
    Ebay:
    Twitter:
    You may want to start out with Photoshop Elements. It's much less expensive than the professional version of Photoshop, about $100 compared to $650. It's also a great gateway into the world of digital imagery.
     
  4. GrimlockAutobot

    GrimlockAutobot Volcanicus Torso

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2007
    Posts:
    4,710
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    Somewhere Wearing The Dinobots As Gloves & Boots
    Likes:
    +38

    OK thanks. I forgot to mention that the program I'm looking for doesn't have to be limited to the Photoshop name.

    If there's something better or cheaper than Photoshop lemme know.

    I'm also looking for a program to create cool backgrounds and signatures. Does Photoshop or a similar program do that too?

    Keep 'em coming!!
     
  5. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    17,195
    Trophy Points:
    291
    Likes:
    +11
    Try Gimp - it's like photoshop but it's free.
     
  6. kasper0v

    kasper0v Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Posts:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    I guess you could try gimp, but then you'd be one. ArtRage is a great program which mimics traditional media (Similar to Corel Painter) and only costs twenty or so bucks. Painter X is also great--you can get a free 30 day trial from the Corel site...Photoshop CS3 (or CS2, which I use) will, of course, be your best bet if you're doing anything other than mimicking real world materials. It has the most options and flexibility. I wouldn't bother with Elements, unless you're my mother and only want to crop photos and fix demonic red eyes. Go forth, young man! You're in for quite an adventure. If you're just learning, Lynda.com is a great resource, and well worth the monthly fee. Good luck!
     
  7. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    17,195
    Trophy Points:
    291
    Likes:
    +11
    Bull.

    I have photoshop CS2 and Gimp, they are very similar in features.
     
  8. Spekkio

    Spekkio Master of War

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Posts:
    3,302
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    Greater Pittsburgh Metropolitan Area
    Likes:
    +1,605
    Ebay:
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    GIMP is awesome and it doesn't cost anything to try (or use).
    There's also paint.net (getpaint.net), though it's Windows-only (GIMP is available on everything).

    Oh yeah - kasper0v, you're entitled to your opinion about GIMP, but your "then you'd be one" line was unnecessary and offensive.
     
  9. MegaMoonMan

    MegaMoonMan OFFICIAL MMM REP

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2004
    Posts:
    21,084
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    452
    Likes:
    +7,928
    Ebay:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    Paint.net is a solid (and FREE!) program, especially for a beginner. I've tried GIMP, but I've never gotten it to work right for some reason. Admittedly, I didn't try very hard, and I wanted it to do something that I had no idea how to do.

    No point in paying for anything just yet - get some experience in the free stuff first.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2008
  10. SydneyY

    SydneyY @syd_tfw Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Posts:
    11,515
    News Credits:
    74
    Trophy Points:
    276
    Likes:
    +167
    I have no knowledge of digital imaging (not even sure if this is the right word), but sort of manage with GIMP. It's neat once you sort of get used to it.

    I know I used "sort of" twice. Still learning :redface2: 
     
  11. kasper0v

    kasper0v Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Posts:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    "in computer role-playing game slang, a gimp is a character, character class or character ability that is underpowered in the context of the game. Gimped characters lack effectiveness compared to other (similar) characters."

    Until someone makes a convincing argument that Gimp is more powerful than Photoshop, I refuse to retract my earlier statement. Has the idiom "you get what you pay for" ever been more true?
     
  12. ckhtiger

    ckhtiger old skool fool

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2003
    Posts:
    9,110
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +4,252
    not to get into the "how useful is gimp" argument, I've used both gimp and paint.net, as I see no reason to pay $100+ for photoshop. I used gimp for a year or two, and did a few neat things with it, but found it so cumbersome (ps may be the same way) that I stopped using it. paint.net seems a little easier for doing real simple things, and that's what I use now.
     
  13. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    17,195
    Trophy Points:
    291
    Likes:
    +11
    All I know is I recently downloaded the newest version of gimp for the hell of it and realized it's feature set is damn near identical to Photoshop CS 2, as far as "you get what you pay for" Mozilla Firefox, AVG Anitivirus, VLC Media Player, and countless other programs would like to have a word with you.

    It is very elitist and downright ignorant to assume just because something is free or open source that it is automatically bad.

    Gimp may not be as intuitive or easy to use as photoshop, it's free - let me repeat, FREE AS OPPOSED TO 600+ DOLLARS and if you take the time to dig around in it it is equally as powerful.
     
  14. MegaMoonMan

    MegaMoonMan OFFICIAL MMM REP

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2004
    Posts:
    21,084
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    452
    Likes:
    +7,928
    Ebay:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    I don't know about it being more powerful or anything, but I'll take the slightly less powerful free version of something over the $600 version any day. If I really "got what I paid for", that $600 should be buying me a program light years in advance over the free choice - which, by all accounts I've seen, is not the case.

    So, yes, "you get what you pay for" HAS been more true - by far.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2008
  15. UltraDevmodious

    UltraDevmodious Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Posts:
    1,025
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I’ve been using Photoshop for about 12 years and I have to say that other than a few aesthetic issues and menu items gimp is just the same. I can do nearly everything in gimp that I can in PS…imo it’s easier for me to move around in PS because I have been using it so long…but there shouldn’t be much of an argument….you use what you are comfortable with.
     
  16. Ziero

    Ziero TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2006
    Posts:
    4,790
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +10
    Sort of on topic but:

    As a total and complete idiot when it comes to photo editing software, does anyone know where I can find a simple, easy to understand tutorial or something for Gimp? I've had it for a while, played with a few things, but I just have *no* clue as to what in the hell I'm doing.
     
  17. Tekkaman Blade

    Tekkaman Blade Professor of Animation

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Posts:
    44,437
    News Credits:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    437
    Location:
    Georgia
    Likes:
    +36,084
    Photoshop is only really nessesary for those in the industry or are capable of using some of the more advanced features. There may also be compatibility issues with other programs that would make photoshop the better program to use.I use DVD studio Pro and a few other programs that would require photoshop files to work right, But for a beginner starting out on a cheaper program is fine. If you need the extra features or have to use it for something else then I would move up to a more advanced program. Photoshop is the standard for all art colleges and for 90%
    of the art industry though.
     
  18. funkatron101

    funkatron101 TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2003
    Posts:
    5,233
    Trophy Points:
    347
    Likes:
    +144
    Ebay:
    I purchased the education version of Adobe CS2 mainly because I like golive, and at times need illustrator, but I have also used photoshop for quite a while, so I am used to it.

    It's spendy. Very spendy, even with the education version discount. Try Gimp, I think you will like it.
     
  19. Bumble Prime

    Bumble Prime all the time

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2006
    Posts:
    2,863
    Trophy Points:
    201
    Likes:
    +1
    I dont use any free programs, but if you do go the photoshop route..........the program has remained pretty much unchanged since 6

    we have cs2 suite at school and so far i havent found a new feature worth a damn as compared to photoshop 7.0 that i run on mine

    so you could save some money buying an older version, or try to find someone in an art school to hook you up as most people who use it in school can get it at a discount for around 100 bucks
     
  20. Gigatron_2005

    Gigatron_2005 President of Calendars

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Posts:
    7,885
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +9
    :rolleyes2 

    The features of GIMP and Photoshop are very comparable. Ive not used Paint.net, but Im thinking of trying it just for fun.