Normally I'm not a big fan of alternators versions of characters that were not cars in their original form. Grimlock, Shockwave, and Optimus Prime to name a few. So I wasn't all that excited about two former tapes turning into cars. I decided to get them anyway since they are new molds and I have atleast one of each mold. ( I don't have the three I mentioned, but I have their repaints Wheeljack, Meister, and NP Trailbreaker. ) Let's just say I was blown away. They are the best of the alt line so far. They aren't anywhere near as fiddly to line up in alt mode, the transformations are fun, and they don't feel like they will break if aren't too careful. It took 'em 20 + releases to get good at designing them, and it's at the end of the line. They'd be my favorites if I didn't have that 20 year old brain washing telling me these two characters shouldn't be cars.