Beast Wars Starscream

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  1. Wheeljack30

    Wheeljack30 Banned

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    I think the episode Possession is kinda confusing. We see Starscream's spark coming into Waspinator. What I don't understand is how can Starscream's spark wonder into space when he is in stasis lock and the Maximals and Predacons are in the same in the same island as the Autobots and Decepticons. And how can Starscream say that Unicron killed him when he is in stasis lock? Kinda confusing if you ask me. Anyone knows?

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  2. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    Because it's Starscream's Spark from the same era as the BW characters themselves came from; some 300 years after the signing of the Pax Cybertronia. He got pulled through the rift in time and just happened to end up there.
     
  3. Wheeljack30

    Wheeljack30 Banned

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    Why didn't he go into his old body instead? Having him go to his old body he most probably would of woken up and take control no?
     
  4. SouthtownKid

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    Even if he knew his body was there, it might create a paradox and kill him for real. Where would his spark from that era go? Exactly.
     
  5. Jetbolt

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    Two reasons for that.

    One, the BW staff didn't plan on having the Ark to show up at all at that point.

    Two, just look at what happen when Prime and the Dcon Megatron's sparks were return to their bodies. Only thing happen was the optics came on for a moment and went back into statis lock just as quick. I would expect the same deal to had happen with Starscream's stasis locked body.
     
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    Even Starscream may not have known that it was Earth. The BW dudes, minus perhaps BW Megatron, didn't think it was Earth at that time. Only with the destruction of the 2nd moon at the end of Season 1 did it become apparent that it was indeed Earth after all.

    If we watch More than meets the eye, TF:TOS Episode 1, the 'bots are revived by Teletraan 1, they don't come back online of their own accord. So if Screamers Spark did enter his own body, I'd say he would have been stuck, with two of his own Sparks in his body until woken up in 1984.
     
  7. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    If Starscream pwned himself once, what makes you think he'll want to risk pwning himself again by possessing his dormant past self and fuck the time stream?
     
  8. The F.N.G.

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    Pretty much this. There was no evidence to suggest that Starscream knew it was prehistoric Earth, and even if he did know he could have been stuck in his old body until it was woken up in 1984. Plus it gives Waspinator another butt monkey moment by having him be possessed.
     
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    His G1 body was damaged. It'd be like putting fuel into a broken-down car. It'll still be broken down.
    If he'd been aware he was on prehistoric Earth he might've used Waspinator's body to locate the Ark and then revive himself. But then anything he did after that would be putting the timeline in jeopardy. What would he have been tempted to do? Kill G1 Megatron while he was offline? That would probably have the same affect as when BW Megs tried to kill G1 Optimus. Starscream is a scientist and I'm sure he'd realise that might be a bad thing. But then he's also kinda arrogant so he might decide he could find a way around a paradox.
    Besides, where would the Starscream spark already in his body go?
     
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    You do realise that Starscream's spark is from the future, right?

    He can't go into his old body because, well, he's already there. There's technically two Starscreams there during the Episode. However, he doesn't know it's Earth (nobody does at that point of the show) and doesn't know the exact time anyway. All he knows is he's some time in the past and wandered into that planet.
     
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    I wonder if Starscream, while in Waspinator's body, could go to the Ark and merge his spark with his own spark and get huge like Primal and Megatron did. Wait a minute. Why didn't Waspinator's body mutate from merging with Starscream's spark like Primal's and Megatron's when they merged with the original Optimus and Megatron????
     
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    That's simple, Hasbro never made Optimal Waspinator, so the BW staff didn't make a computer model.
     
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    I demand to see someone draw an Optimal Waspinator. NOW.
     
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    It's not two sparks that make a huge body, it's merging with powerful sparks. Starscream's spark was mutated, but he wasn't even close to the power lever of Optimus or Megatron. Plus, Waspinator himself is not powerful at all, so there's even less cause for mutation.

    Though his spark did cause one minor change. The predacon logos on Waspinator's head changed to Decepticon ones. So two sparks did make a change for him.
     
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    I never noticed that...now I gotta go look...
     
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    He could also fly faster & had better reflexes, although that could've just been from the battle sense.
     
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    Seems weird Waspinator, trying his hardest, never got that fast.

    I think his body did alter, but because Starscream's spark is not as powerful it didn't alter much and reverted when he left.
     
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    It wouldn't be a case of a more powerful spark being placed into a smaller body. Starscream's spark would be going into Starscream's body.
    Starscream isn't merging his spark with Waspinator's. He was just possessing him.
     
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    Right. Its the same thing that Starscream did in G1 Season 3. He didn't change any of those guys.
     
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    Indeed. The old, larger bodies are desighned to hold that power.

    Good point. Waspinator's spark was merely "pushed aside," as Starscream assumed full dominance.
     

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