Beast Wars 10th! What can you do!

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  1. Terrorcon0

    Terrorcon0 Transformers Rock Star!!!

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    I picked up the Beast Wars 10th set last night and since the figures are sealed on the backing card in the box has upset me. I wanted to pull the figures out to check them out and build Transmutate but I guess they are staying in there boxes. :sly2:  I hate spending over 45 buck on toys that I won't be able to pull out since it is sealed. :banghead:  I just don't want to cut anything since these are Annivesary figues. The same goes for the new Alternators too. I would open them up and that is why I like the boxes better then this clear bubble krap. I guess make mine Takara and why I have all the Galaxy Force figures up to date. It was one of the many points I brought to the table when Aaron Archer asked why I was choosing Galaxy Force over Cybertron at this past Botcon during the Casino Night. What do you think about having these sealed bubble on almost everything that is coming out now? :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead: 
     
  2. ams

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    With all due respect to those that keep their TF's sealed or MIB, should Hasbro really be concerned about the fact that some figures can't be placed back into their boxes in the original condition they came out?

    I mean, for 95% of the market (everybody but the MIB portion of the fandom), boxes are meant to serve several important, but <b>temporary</b> functions... to be attractive to young eyes, to cross sell other products, and to prevent theft. After a toy has been purchased, the boxes really serve no purpose, except to some of us.

    So would I like to see Hasbro spend money to specifically design packaging to allow figures to be removed and replaced on a whim? Nah, just make it the best it can be to sell more toys to kids. I've got all the Galaxy Force stuff, too - and I think that even for those, it would be quite difficult to return any of them to their original, preopened condition.

    Also, I don't care for the new Alt packaging because I find it horribly ugly, not because it's difficult to place a figure back inside. :D  But in saying all that, I can see how current packaging methods could be irritating if you like to both A) open and B) preserve the original look in box. I'm just not sure it should be a priority for Hasbro.
     
  3. Terrorcon0

    Terrorcon0 Transformers Rock Star!!!

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    Well I understand but a big majority of the people that collect Transformers are 30% Collector, 60% children, and 10% Misc. Which is understandable, case in point my 6 year old loves the toys and could careless for the packaging. The other point is that most of the collectors keep the boxes and cards intacked because we have relized that the money we spend is not just for the toy but the design of the presentation in which the figure is enclosed. I have all the Galaxy Force and it is nice to be able to pull out the figure at this time a then put them back for easy storage and to make room for newer figures. I think that Hasbro would have had my money instead of spending funds in a different market if they would get ride of sealed cards and those damn twisties. Give me Boxes or sliding card bubbles. Hope that by the time the movie comes out they will become aware of this that plagues us all.
     
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    Those are different from the statistics I've heard, which put the fandom at around 15-20% of the market, but even if true, it's still only a <u>portion of the collectors</u> that care about or save the boxes/packaging - so I'm sticking with my estimate of 95% of people buying TFs couldn't care less about the packaging they come in.

    Ok that works for you, but you can't assume every collector shares that viewpoint. I'm spending money for the <b>toy inside the box.</b> The box goes in the garbage.

    Again, I have all of those as well, and with the exception of the ones that come in plastic trays, they're no easier to keep "original" than their Cybertron counterparts.

    But if it only "plagues" a few people, again, should Hasbro worry about compromising what their marketing team feels will sell the product most effectively for the sake of a tiny percentage of unhappy fans who, unlike their target audience, want to keep the toys in the box?
     
  5. Joe Moore

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    Those BW Anniversarry boxes are going to end up the same place as all my other boxes. In the trashcan.
     
  6. Neomarsala

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    The only toys I care about storing in their boxes are the G1 reissues, but that's probably because those boxes are made to be displayed. If I threw away those boxes, I'd feel like I was throwing away part of the toy itself. Most of the boxes from other TFs lines aren't as cool IMO. I think the Alts. look better displayed outside of their boxes anyway. That said I have kept the boxes to all my Alts. I'm not sure why I kept them, but they did come in handy when I decided to pack my Alts. away a while back. I don't keep the boxes to the Cybertron toys at all.

    As far as the BW 10th anniversary toys are concerned: It'd be nice if they came in boxes similiar to the G1 reissues(in which case I probably would keep the boxes), but it's nothing I'm going to cry about it.
     
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    I'm not really worried about boxes. If I can keep something in its box, then great, keeps it organised and all that. If it won't go back in, I tend to flatten out the boxes and put them in a portfolio case, and have the figure loose on my shelves. I'm collecting to take them down and play about with them every once in a while, not to keep them in their boxes. I'd have a hard time justifying buying anything just to keep it in its packaging.
     
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    You know, most boxed G1 TFs came in a bubble sealed to the inner card...and some people will pay $50 for just the bubble/inner card, because if it was done right, you can still display it in the box.

    Just slice along the bottom of the inner bubble just enough so that you can get the figure out. When you put it back in, gravity does the rest and the figure displays fine. If you wanted to open the box to get to the figure anyway, it won't matter.

    Then in 15 years, you can put it on Ebay and yours will command a premium because some kid who got it as a present for Christmas 2005 but threw out the box will be on a nostalgia trip and will like the fact that the toy is not sealed, but can be displayed in it's original form. Such is the appeal of The Box.
     
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    In the case of BW 10th figures, I really dont care about the packaging since I'm buying a couple of them solely for the Transmutate parts, and I'll have to take a couple of the figs out to "finish the job" Hasbro should've done as far as accuracy is concerned i.e. saw off Rhinox's head flaps and do a little painting, and repaint the inside of Dinobot's weapon.
     
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    Add me to this bandwagon...If I decide to buy the BW 10th Anniversary stuff (right now I'm definitely passing) I'll probably keep the boxes and all the packaging, but the toys are definitely coming out. Just like I do with the Alts and Reissues.
     
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    I applaud you for one of the best Transformers related posts I have read on this message board in MONTHS. Kudos to you, sir.
     
  12. Steeljaw

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    amen :rock 
     
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    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I plan to keep these MOSC. Man, it feels weird saying that. I didn't even keep the G1 reissue boxes, but I'm keeping these. I already have the original issues, some of them multiples, and beast wars just means something to me. It's the show that got me into transformers and computer animation, and it's Canadian. Represent.
     
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    I just wanted to take em out for a few mins and place em back into the box.
     
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    I like to keep mine in the package and take them out every now and then. So far I have not found a packaging style that I haven't found a way to open, get the toy out and put it back in. And for the most part they look like there sealed when on display. Do they look perfect no, but that's the trade off for opening them.
     
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    ditto.. I used to save a bunch of boxes from the Car Robots and BWII/Neo, but i stopepd. No space for them. All i care about is the damn toy. As long at the packaging is eye catching to reel in the kiddies i'm happy.
     
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    New toys are not going to be worth anything. Saving them has no point (unless you like the toy store look ...which is fine) The only toys that will have real value are toys made before the 1990's Even the late 80's are not at the level as before. It's like comic books only 10-15 years later.
     
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    I like keeping em mib, but nothing's going to stop me from getting to that toy.
    Will probably just cut half the inner bubble out fro re-insertion
     
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    I like the diverse opinions on the packaging ideas from everone. See I have the original Beast Wars figures from 10 years ago all on the cards with the bubbles sliced open so I can play with them. I guess out of all I just wanted to pull out the Transmutate but since these are the 10th Anniversary I will just keep them for display purposes. I have another question. Since most of you trash the packaging, why? I understand that you mostly care about the figure inside. The money you spend is not just for the toy inside the packages, but for the presentation of the packages themselves plus the instructions and with bio printed on the packaging as well. Why throw your money in the trash when the price for the figures, if you decide to sell in the future, won't fetch a prettier penny when the figure is loose. Why throw your money away? Why? Do you buy a DVD and throw away the case it comes in just because you want the movie inside?

    Wonder: Cheetor anniversay figure has green robot eyes and blue hands. Not show accurate. Cheetor has gold eyes and hands in the show. It seems the original toy was show accurate more then the annivesary figure.
     
  20. Neomarsala

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    Well, I don't really buy these things with an intention of ever selling them. However, if I did want to sell of of them, I don't think I'd be upset that I didn't keep the box. I didn't buy them to make money, so if I'm selling them it is probably because I decided I don't want them anymore.

    That's not really the same at all.
     

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