Autonomous Robotic Organisms................

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  1. Tigertrack

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    Hello there. Ever since G1 came out, I always thought Autobots were called Autobots because they were both auto's "cars" and robots.
    Now do Michele Bay's first movie, Optimus Prime called them selves "Autonomous Robotic Organisms, or Autobots for short".

    So, my question is, where does the name Decepticon come from? Yes their military-based, yes their "deceiving", conniving, and they "con". But that really doesn't really say where their name derives from!

    Has it been mentioned anywhere?
     
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    Megatron/Decepticon founder in most continuites probably chose that name just because of the reasons you mentioned.
     
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    Deceptive construct?

    Deception has long tied to the name of the faction before, not so sure where con comes from. Megatron: Origin might lead one to believe it to stand for convicts, the early members of the Decepticons in that book having been busted out of jail and taking Megatron's side as they lit fire to Kaon.
     
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    True.

    Like everything Bay does, it's best ignored.
     
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    I wouldn't say that, Autonomous Robotic Organisms does fit.
     
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    :rolleyes: 

    How 'bout: in Bay's movies they can be called Autobots as a short term for "Autonomous Robotic Organisms" and in other shows they can be called Autobots because of their main choice of vehicle modes.
     
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    These are well thought out, I like both.
     
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    Something just dawned on me this morning while in the shower. There is a contradiction in terms here.
    Autonomous Robotic Organisms versus NBE's. While "Autonomous Robotic" fits, organisms do NOT! Organisms applies that they are organic in nature right? If that is the case, than how can they be NBE's? None Biological Entities? So, it's not biological but it's organic? What the hell? LOL!

    Question is, did Prime actually say the word "organisms"? When he was describing his race to Sam?

    If he did, Bay sure did contradict didn't he?
     
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    Actually theres no contraction.

    You need to think outside the box on this one.

    It was the "humans" that were calling them NBE's........but the humans within the story had no reason to believe that TF's were a natural biological life form and not a constructed one.
     
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    I guess what I'm saying is how can you have a "biological, organic" robot? Robot in general is "mecha" in nature, not organic.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with using the term Organism to describe a Transformer at all, actually. They fit the definition of an organism very, veyr well indeed.

    or·gan·ism   /ˈɔrgəˌnɪzəm/ Show Spelled[awr-guh-niz-uhm]
    –noun
    1.a form of life composed of mutually interdependent parts that maintain various vital processes. (Yup, they fit this...)
    2.a form of life considered as an entity; an animal, plant, fungus, protistan, or moneran. (It only lists "living" organisms as we understand them as examples, but nothing about the description exclusdes applying it to Transformers)
    3.any organized body or system conceived of as analogous to a living being: the governmental organism. (Meh, this talks about collectives of people, but if you think of parts instead of people...it fits too)
    4.any complex thing or system having properties and functions determined not only by the properties and relations of its individual parts, but by the character of the whole that they compose and by the relations of the parts to the whole. (Oh yeah, match here too...)
     
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    Okay, thank you. So back to the original question. Where did the name Decepticon come from?
     
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    Here...on Earth that would be the case.

    But on an alien world.....where live evolved differently, whos to say.

    As far as Bay's TF's go, so far, we've been told that they are the natural life form of Cybertron.

    They are living machines, organic does fit for the most part.
     
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    deceptive converters i guess.
    Makes me wonder what the scientific latin name for tfs could be ??
    Maybe its Ferrumilites mutare ( transforming Iron warriors )
     
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    and don't forget about the spark, that is ALIVE, not a machine, the machine is basically the vessel for the spark
     
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    That depends on which continuity your talking about.

    Bays films pretty much indicate that the bodies are indeed alive.
     
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    I remember reading that the word 'robot' came from the Czechoslovakian for slave so Autonomous and Robotic could also be seen to contradict each other.

    In fairness, as much as we give out about his films, especially ROTF, there is a lot of good stuff in there. I like the term 'Autonomous Robotic Organism'.
     
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    Yes, so do I it makes it sound more technical. Like giving long complicated names to simple pills. LOL!
     

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