Autobots with Decepticon Vehicles

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Barricade24, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Barricade24

    Barricade24 The Decepticop

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    I was watching DOTM and something occured to me. When Carly is heading for her boss's party, Sideswipe and Mirage show up with Carly getting in Soundwave. Now how can Sideswipe and Mirage not recognize Soundwave in his altmode while Ironhide could recognize Starscream in his?
     
  2. Aernaroth

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    Soundwave is more of an infiltration and subterfuge expert than Starscream, who's more of a front-line fighter. Could also be Soundwave just isn't as famous as Starscream among the Autobots.
     
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    soundwave has the ability to distort readings and electronics and whatnot, probably nobody noticed any energon readings coming off of him, not to mention he just took the form. it's also possible carly's been using a real mercedes the whole time and soundwave waited till the right moment to replace it.
     
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    Well the Autobots didn't notice Frenzy stowing away with them for awhile in TF1, nor did Bee notice Alice was a Decepticon (based on his soundclips he seemed to assume she was trying to make Sam cheat on Mikela, as he would have told Optimus there was a Decepticon stalking Sam, and they certainly wouldn't have let him return to the school after that). So they might just as fooled by Decepticon alt modes as the humans can be.

    It's possible that Ironhide, noticing the supposed allied plane, was alone, approaching them in an attack pattern and ignoring their attempts to contact it, and came to the conclusion it was a Decepticon rather than be able detect it by sensors. And he simply assumed correctly it was Starscream since he was one of the few Decepticons that could take a jet mode.

    Plus Soundwave was able to hide himself from NEST's Energon detectors anyway, so maybe he could just hide his signature well.
     
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    Stockade187 Decepticon Junkie

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    For sake of argument let's say that wasn't Soundwave at them moment, it was a normal vehicle.
     
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    The last time we saw Soundwave, he was in space. I doubt the Autobots were hanging around to watch when he popped off to Earth and scanned a car.
     
  7. Karhukjnsi

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    This. He didn't make any of the Energon detectors go off, he's a brilliant hacker and espionage agent, he knows how to stay under the radar. The Autobots didn't have a chance, hint, or whiff to figure out if that was him.

    On the other hand, he was probably laughing in his head that three Auto-bozos were right by him, and could've killed him, but didn't have the slightest of suspicions.
     
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    Did Bumblebee recognize Alice as a Pretender when she was riding in him?
     
  9. AquamanOS

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    It was never directly stated. But I'm pretty sure he didn't, because he'd have reported this Optimus immediately, and it's highly unlikely they'd let Sam head back to school with a confirmed Decepticon stalking him, let alone let him go back without telling him this.

    Based on his sound clips, he just didn't like her because she threatening Sam's relationship with Mikaela.
     
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    Starscream is famous for being flying things, and a lone jet flying below buildings over the Autobots is pretty obviously Starscream.

    Soundwave is an infiltration expert. Plus, last anybody knew he was in orbit. And he had a reason for being there.
     
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    Sso02V Injector Has a Posse

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    Easy answer? Soundwave jammed the Energon detectors.

    Crazy theory answer? Dylan's company is in charge of producing a crucial part for the detectors, and they messed with the sensors.
     
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    ^ Dylan's company is an ACCOUNTING FIRM, lol.
     
  13. Sso02V

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    That'd be the crazy part there, chief.
     
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    I'd say that works okay. After all, Laserbeak was never detected either (even in Chernobyl, where some of the NEST personnel had portable energon detectors in hand), as well as that watch-bot Dylan had. Although of course, Wheelie, Brains, the Dreads, and at least the majority of the Decepticons that arrived through the space bridges were noticed by the energon detectors, so I guess Soundwave didn't interfere all of those devices.
     
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    "Jamming" implies an active, targeted disruption of the Energon detectors...I'd imagine it was probably a more passive, stealth-based property of the designs for those specific Decepticon agents working as spies which enables them to defeat such methods of detection.
     
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    :lol  Wonder if Bee felt violated?
     
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    then how did get to Africa?
     
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    Tempory vehicle shift, back to his base jet mode. Got on a boat. Swam. Starscream carried him there. Whichever one suits you.
     
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    You know, I was thinking the same thing. It could have very well been that a normal car was used until the right moment. Maybe it was planned that both Sam and Carly be at the party and Soundwave take the place of the normal car then. The plan almost failed but Sam showed up at the party after all.
     

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