are the voltron lions cyborgs, zoids . cybertronains or something beyond them?

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  1. redwolfbear

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    quick question






    as animal type super robot mecha go

    are the lions of voltron zoids cybertronians or something more entirely beyond either ?

    for all intents and purposes the lions of voltron , each of them is a living mechanimal being (mechanical animal(a technological living sentintet animal being for all intents)


    that is to say that each of the 5 robot lions of voltron are not so much robots persay , if anything they have technological bodies that would easily be of zoidian (as in actual zoids) like sophistication albut radically modified and enhanced wel labove and beyond that of any actual feline type zoid

    put most simply in their way the voltron lions each have the sentience and nature and survival instincts of actual lions , the souls of lions(nature spirits perhaps) having somehow through magic and technology been reincarnated into the actual mechanimal bodies

    but by and far they are lving sentient beings in their own right of a level approaching that of cybertronians in the most extreme

    this jsut be educated guess work on my part folks







    as animal type super robots go zoids happen to be fully self sentient living mechanical beings , rather similer to transformers in that regard as sentient mechanical living beings go in science fiction, as such each zoid has a individual nature personality and animalistic nature all its own, while at the same time each zoid happens to be modeled after a type of animal and as such has the instincts and nature of whatever animal it was modeled after in its way , as such to pilot a zoid takes a great deal more then willpower and technological know how. it requires the pilot to form a bond with their zoid, one born of friendship as much as faith trust and respect, but at the same time as the zoid gains experience in surviving multiple battles throughout its life time it gains intelligence as well while also growing more powerful in its abilities while at the same time the bond between the zoid and its pilot deepens over time in that the zoid is literally feeding on its pilots positive emotions and positive state of mind and as the zoid pilots self confidence grows over time so too does the pilot and the zoids natural abilities grow stronger over time , self confidence will power fighting spirit a real determinator sort of mindset appear to be key in brigning out the best over all potential in the zoid itself as a fighting partner a zoid pilot has to lieterally guide their zoid with their spirit , their feelings their emotions, their passion as a fighter for all intents and purposes, the stronger the emotional bond between zoid and pilot the greater the zoids ability to perform at optimal levels al laroudn while at the same time it makes it possible for the zoid to go well above and beyond its inherently sturcutal design limitiations in this regaerd a zoid can be rather like a super robot in its way.

    so whats to say that the same cannot also be true for the voltron lions as well?

     
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    Different IP, different continuity. Can't be Cybertronians.
     
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    Hmmm.... let me clear a few things up.
    1. Different Continuities.
    2. This is a stupid question, and this is just stupid in general.
    3. Zoids are giant mechanical suits based off of animals created for combating each other. Being piloted by Humans, they aren't exactly sentient. Only a few models and Zoids have the potential to be Sentient.
    4. Cybertronians are made from something called a "protoform." A protoform is basically an unborn Cybertronian waiting to take form.
    5. The Lions of Voltron are made of Magic and Metal. Literally.
     
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    Well, they're not cyborgs AFAIK, and Zoids and Cybertronians are specific things from other continuities.

    If anything they're closer to the Power rangers Zords of old. Semi-sentient machines.
     
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    "Cyborg" implies "organism" and the lions aren't organic, so they're not that. I could see how they're comparable to sentient Zoids, but they're not exactly the same. Voltron and his component lions are animated by a combination of technology and deep elemental magic--the latter of which is absent in Zoids as far as I'm aware.
     
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    flamepanther i was implying cyborg as in the actual skeletal structure itself being used as a bracework assembly to build the components of the mechanimal body onto but otherwise the only organic components being derived from the lions actual genetic make up dna wise (it being used to govern a complex computer system asa sentient computer mind in its own right albut one that has been imprinted wiht the instincts and nature of said animal itself , a kind of computer based artificial intelligence imbued with the actual genetic nature of the animal the mechanimal form was modeled after


    you know like what was done with the skeleton of the original 1954 Godzilla to create the fully biomechanical mechagodzilla kiryu its body being built aroudn the skeletal remains of the original 1954 Godzilla and its living intelligence computer mind being enhanced with the baseline dna salvaged from within the spinal column compoinents of the skeleton of the original Godzilla from 1954 to provide it with the instincts nature and genetic memory of the original 1954 godzilla
     
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    I think have something to do with magic stuff.
     
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    Maybe. Who really knows for sure, man.

    Maybe Gundam are lobotomized, larger Cybertronians.
     
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    so who piloted the lion force voltron originally before it got broken down into the 5 robot lions?

    was king alfor its original sole pilot?
     
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    I don't remember the Zoids backstory. I guess they could be another race built by the Quintessons. I mean, in G1 it's stated that the Transformers didn't learn to transform until after their creators left. So....
     
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    i always thought it was king alfor himself who piloted voltron itself originally , that is to say that it was his eldricht magick that animiated the voltron robot making it respond to his mind and through hthat bond providing the voltron robot with a level of sentience in its own right form that mental merging of man and machine (in essence voltron being a giant magically enhanced ironman power armor suit albut scaled up to super robot standards

    alfor died in the destruction fo voltron when haggar attempted to destroy voltron but bartered wiht the magick with his own soul in the wager so as to bond the magick but also his soul as well to the remains of voltron so that as it fell to arus its bodily components would be remade and reborn as the robot lions themselves but with it being the soul of king alfor himself that grants them with a measure of living sentient enhanced ai intelligence but wiht thier combined form of fvoltron being king alfors super robot reincarnation for all intents
     
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    combining robots powered with magical energies.
     
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    I think you just thought about it WAY more than the creators ever did. In GoLion don't they say Voltron is like his own sentient being?
     
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    you really think i got a good origin story idea?



    i think its brilliant actually the very idea of the robot lions being living magitechnological beings in their way(both king alfors children in a snese but also king alfor himself reincarnated as voltron
     
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    >TRANSFORMERS GENERAL DISCUSSION
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    well they are transforming robot lions transformers in a sense, but the same could also be said for shin getter robo as well(aren't transformers basically what you get when you combine the super robot pilot theirself with said super robot they would pilot otherwise, hence the super robot having the mind and personality of the pilot itself hence transformers in a sense originating from the trope in being both the super robot pilot and the super robot all in one as its own living sentient character
     
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    Wow, way too much thought trying to apply logic to separate properties directed at kids with a main purpose of getting parents to buy the toys. Sorry, run on sentence.
     
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    why would they be Cybertronians?
    They have no connection to transformers whatsoever
    Yeah Japan is fond of a living robots







     
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    Okay since when franchises about human-piloted mecha-robots being the same universe as with sentinel transforming robot franchise, in a Omniverse yes, I believed that Zoids is some what part of a Cymond universe.
     
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    i agree completely hell the predacons could totally pass for being for being cybertronians whos animal alt forms could easily be molded after zoids for sheer awesome
     

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