anyone else love upgraded forms in a TF Cartoon/toy line?

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  1. Tigermegatron

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    anyone else love upgraded forms in a TF Cartoon/toy line?

    Personally,I love this idea. as it shows character developement.

    I also love seeing 2 different styled toys based off the same character in a TF cartoon series with a connecting toy line.

    examples: cybertron toy line toys/characters,hotshot,redalert,leobreaker.

    Armada smokescreen upgrading his body into that white construction vechicle.

    hotrod upgrading his body into rodimus prime in the 1986 movie.


    animated megatron having a earth scientist upgraded his body into his new earth mode form.

    1986 movie megatron,the seekers & insecticons getting their bodies upgraded into galvatron,cyclonus & scourge.
     
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    You don't like Beast Wars do you?
     
  3. MrSoundwaveGuy

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    No because it's rarely used to show character development and obviously intended just to advertise new toys. Even in a greatly written series like Beast Wars it takes you out of the show and reminds you this is a franchise made to advertise toys.
     
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    "Wow, Optimus sure learns a new body fast!"

    "He should, he changes 'em often enough." (rimshot)
     
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    he's right. I remember watching the Beast Wars episode "Aftermath" when they get their transmetal forms there was like five minutes of shameless advertising that I was embarrassed to watch.

    Rattrap: I'm a rat with wheels! BUY ME

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    I do rather like upgrades and armor, not for character development, though. It's just great when there's one really good base figure, and he comes with a bunch of stuff to make one epic robot. See RiD Optimus.
    I'm also in love with Animated Powermaster Prime's design.
     
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    I love it.
    Guess what? Transformer is and will always be a toy medium first. That was how it was born and how it grew to be the successful brand it is today. And I relish it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding himself.
     
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    It's cool for toys, but I've never seen it used as a consistent method of character development in any Transformer media. That doesn't bother me because I love the toys, but no I never saw it as a consistent method of character development.
     
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    I love them. I feel that the Transformers shows cannot be separated from the toy tradition that forms them.

    I feel that the franchise's nature as merchandise-driven allows it to portray, in my opinion, certain "cool" aspects that have to be thrown out in other serious shows. The flashy upgrades and gizmos entertain the inner child in me that seeks solace from this dark and desolate world. They allow me to say, "heh, that's cool."

    So I think to myself, so what if the characters are screaming for me to rush to the store to buy little plastic versions of themselves? So what if the show is a blatant toy commercial? At the very least, they're being honest about it.
     
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    This is pretty much the way I feel. I like cool toys and I like seeing characters get different incarnations that make cool toys.
     
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    Beast Wars was f'n awesome.
     
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    It's ALWAYS to advertise new toys. The reason the characters even exist in the first place is to advertise toys.
     
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    LOL Character development?

    Armada Starscream gets a color change: "I feel like... Thundercracker." Boom, new toy.

    And Hot Rod to Rodimus? What did he do exactly? He found the finger holes, opened up the Matrix, and the Matrix did the rest. Rodimus just drove his way out of the exploding Unicron in good old 80's fashion. Zero character development.
     
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    I do. Especially in BW. I thought the Transmetal upgrades made some characters seem more interesting, and made flight and fast travel not an issue for some characters. It kinda leveled the playing field, which I thought made things a little more interesting.
     
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    Almost all the TF characters in the Cybertron cartoon series received major character development when they got upgraded into their new forms.

    hotshot,redalert & scattershot had those episodes where they were dying & drew on the energy of the cyber planet keys to get upgraded "defense" forms.
    those 3 characters got major character development in those episodes & afterwards.

    Leobreaker got major character develpoment when he got his new beast mode form on the beast planet. he even got more courageous & fought scourge. leobreaker then got more character develpment when he linked up with optimus prime as his right arm. then leobreaker got more chracter develpoment when he was jealous of wingsaber & his dark side caused megatron to scan/clone dark leobreaker. lastly leobreaker became the new leader of the beast planet. when scourge left on his cyber keys journey with optimus at the end.

    BM Cheetor got more mature when he upgraded into his newer form. even at the extent of being temporary faction leader. then in the end becomming the permament faction leader of the maximals.
     
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    I love some of the upgrades.


    BW Transmetals, the Cybertron Defense team and hell even the TF1 Bumblebee. All Great upgrades. I don't count insert name repaint Optimus Prime as a upgrade.


    The RID/Armada/Energon/Cybertron Galvatrons was an exception, He looked cooler with each "upgrade". :p 
     
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    I do. Cybertron defense team, for example. Awesome figs.
     
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    I was referring to consistency...that's four examples (and probably some more thrown in) out of...how many "upgraded" modes we've seen?

    I like the toys, but I don't tie them to character development like you apparently do.
     
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    A little character develeopment. But those episodes were meant to wexplain how they gain the forms. they hardly got any devolpment after that. Ligerjack/leobreaker got jelous of Sonic Convoy/Sonic Wing prime but that was another ploy to introduce Dark Leobreaker which was destroyed a bit afterwards. Tbh most of the character development for Exillion and First Aid were in on Speedia.
     
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    Well I like my some powering up and super forms, always have. on other shows Power Rangers, DBZ etc its easy to to get new powers but for TFs they literally have to have a new body built for them. So it makes it difficult. Normally I love the "Burning Justice" type of power up but I feel that doesn't go too well with TFs.

    I really liked the God Bomber Project in Masterforce way of going about it.

    Also yes im fully aware that the reason is to sell more toys.
     

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