Anti-kibble

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Nevermore, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. Bumblethumper

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    ROTF Soundwave has the reverse of this... his alt mode has a false head.
     
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    I`m on Tfwiki.net, I can change it if anybody wants me to.
     
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    Faux-parts works.

    I think someone else once called it "cheating"
     
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    I would count this. It's no different than say MP-01 having two grills.
     
  5. Sso02V

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    I always figured that was his radiator.
     
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    One of the ones that particularly annoys me is Leader Jetfire's false cockpit on his head.

    Wish they'd found a way to make that work for real.
     
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    BW TM Megatron has a faux Dino head on his chest, though it could just be detail, considering it's distinctly organic looking while the real one is purely mechanical.

    Dude, don't get so upset. They only do that because it's physically impossible to have everything go where it "should" while achieving the desired look and keeping the transformation suitably simple/complex.

    Like BW Megs' chest, it wouldn't really count, since it's not supposed to be the front of the truck, but just a detail on his chest.

    And I wouldn't count this, since he's supposed to have two heads between robot/alt modes. Being very distinct and different designs.

    That's like including most BW figures because the beast head is not the robot head.
     
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    Doesn't bother me as much as my post makes it sound. >_< It's just a pet peeve of mine, tis all.
     
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    Cerberus Shockwave loyalist

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    animated lockdown have cheating parts

    the foot are supposed to be the front bumper of the car, but this parts is actually in the thights
     
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    what. So he's supposed to have 2 different heads heads? Where'd you get that from?

    I would think it more natural to assume he's like Movie Megatron, where the head is visible in both modes. The reason they look different is because the head is partly masked.


    For that matter, ROTF Legends Megatron is another example of this. He has a false head for tank mode.
     
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    Dude, practically the whole toy is kibble AND "anti-kibble."

    His head is a fake cockpit, and the real cockpit becomes arm kibble. The CGI model (and FAB) has the engines being his thighs. The toy has the engines being kibble and his thighs have fake engines.

    I'm also pretty sure at least one person has completely removed all of Jetfire's kibble and still managed to get a (nearly) whole robot and whole jet out of it.

    More examples of this are G1 cartoon and IDW Astrotrain.

    G1 Astrotrain's ventral fin clearly becomes his chest in the cartoon AND toy, and yet the cartoon has another fin on Astrotrain's back. Really strange why they would do this.

    IDW Astrotrain seems to combine the G1 toy AND cartoon. With the way he transforms, his ventral fin ACTUALLY winds up on his back. Astrotrain's chest, meanwhile, has a 2D painted design that looks exactly like his ventral fin split into a V. Obviously, this one was intentional and it's an awesome EJ Su design. Just wanted to point out the false fin on his chest.
     
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    That accepted, the head is the bit that bothers me most. I don't pay much attention to the undercarriage kibble since we've come to expect that.

    The cockpit is one of the key areas where you have continuity between the alt mode and bot mode, and that's why I think it's a shame they ditched this.

    It was possible to pull this off on the voyager class Stratosphere. I assume the electronics were a major reason why they didn't attempt this on Jetfire. Too bad. It's something I would've appreciated.
     
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    Sideway's irritates me the most since its so much smaller than his real wheels.
     
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    I vote for "doppelkibble." Like a doppelganger, it's a clone, not necessarily the same but it tries to pass as the original kibble.
     
  15. Nevermore

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    I'm a Wiki contributor too. This isn't about "Duh, the Wiki is stupid, can someone change it". This is just about coming up with a better term first. The Wiki is supposed to document facts, not artificially create them.
     
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    Seconded! That's perfect IMHO!
     
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    Energon Downshift (the Wheeljack lookalike) has a fake windscreen on his chest, and his feet are shaped to look like the front of G1 Wheeljack's car mode.

    TFA Blurr's chest looks kinda like his windscreen. Also, BW Depthcharge's chest has his beastmode's eyes sculpted on.
     
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    'Faux-parts' has my vote.
     
  19. Bumblethumper

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    anti-kibble isn't even an accurate term. It sounds like something you spray to get rid of kibble or to protect yourself from kibble.

    But it doesn't do that at all. The irony is it actually duplicates existing kibble.
     
  20. Feralstorm

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    I like splitting the difference for "Faux-kibble".

    Though I don't have a problem with "Anti-Kibble" either.