Animated continuity with Gen1

Discussion in 'Transformers Animated Discussion' started by Tim_Patterson, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. Tim_Patterson

    Tim_Patterson Member

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    OK, a friend bet me I couldn't come up with this. Help me plug the holes, so I don't lose.


    I would put Animated, further into the future, after the G1 Movie (obviously), and after Robots in disguise, but way before Beast Wars and Beast Machines.

    In Japan, the Bots in RID had completely different names, and were not their G1 counterparts, (Fireconvoy, Gigatron, etc.) also it was a sorta self contained conflict,
    so this should work....


    Many years after the Autobots won the Great War (G1) and returned to cybertron, the lack of energy and continued hostility among the different factions take it's toll.

    Thus the "Great Upgrade" as mentioned by Optimus Primal in the pilot episode of - Beast Machines.

    The Autobots and the defeated decepticons, voluntarily go through a process of making themselves more efficient and 're-booting' themselves .

    Using new "protoform" technology, (Bumblebee mentions protoforms to Wasp - animated) the Transformers become sleeker and more efficient, but more importantly have no memory of their past, in an effort to end the hostilities.

    A few Decepticons are not going along with this and flee to the outer rim.

    A select few, such as Ultra Magnus, Ratchet and Ravage (said to have been given amnesty - Beast Wars) are upgraded as much as they can be, without the protoform process.

    They are charged with the task of keeping an eye on things, and make sure the new 'bots' don't fall back into old habits.
    After all, Prime is a natural born leader, so placing him on menial tasks like space bridge repair, should keep things quiet.

    That is until the Allspark reemerges...



    A few things I haven't figured or am really reaching for ...

    The allspark is what? The matrix of sparks perhaps? Heart of cybertron?

    Ratchet was brought back to life when? I like to think Prime gave him a piece of his spark to revive him, and help this whole process along.

    Some of the bots are completely new, with old names (Ironhide). Perhaps there is some spark merging going on ala -Beast Wars and Beast Machines

    The new Megatrons origin? Perhaps the combination of Galvatrons, Cyclonus and Scourges sparks? Explains his flight mode.

    On that, if Megatron in Beast Machines succeeded in combining all of the sparks, would he have revived Cybertron himself?

    Does Wasp actually become Waspinator, that we see later in Beast Wars? He would have been upgraded from the insecticon shrapnel, as mentioned in - Beast Wars


    Please add your thoughts.
     
  2. shroobmaster

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    Dude, it's impossible to do it with two extremely different universe that just re-uses names.

    Just admit defeat to your friend.
     
  3. Silent_Magnus

    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    I hope takara doesn't try to shove animated into their "super-continuity".
     
  4. Tim_Patterson

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    Nah, I think this works.
     
  5. Omnius

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    Mathematically speaking:

    (Animated = G1) = False
     
  6. Metalhead

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    Putting it bluntly, your idea sucks.
     
  7. Tim_Patterson

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    Seriously, Why couldn't it work.
    I mean the first episode had footage from G1.
    Is it that far fetched?
     
  8. Omnius

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    Because Animated is not set in the G1 continuity.
     
  9. Tim_Patterson

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    Thae same could have been said about Beast Wars Season 1
     
  10. Omnius

    Omnius Well-Known Member

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    It's already been said that the G1 footage at the beginning of Animated was a nod to the fans, and nothing more. I'm pretty sure Aaron Archer himself is on record as saying they're separate continuities.
     
  11. Tim_Patterson

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    Darn, Really? Do you have a link to that Aaron Archer thing?

    I may be out $20. Everyone seems to be rejecting the Idea.
     
  12. Omnius

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    It's somewhere within these very forums - some digging with the Search function should provide results.
     
  13. Ops_was_a_truck

    Ops_was_a_truck JOOOLIE ANDREWWWWWS!!!!!!

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    I don't have anything to add other than to note that, while Animated does a cool job of culling themes from G1, I certainly don't think or feel that it's connected in any formal/storytelling perspective to the original show.
     
  14. EvaUnit13

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    If you choose to think that Animated is the same continuity as G1, then it leaves a lot more plot holes than just thinking that the G1 references are just there for the old fans
     
  15. trebleshot

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    I would also like to add that hopefully Hasbro learned their lesson from trying to shoehorn Cybertron into the Armada/Energon continuity.

    Animated is, and should remain, a separate universe.
     
  16. thor20

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    Animated is a completely different continuity. There are so many things in this that nod to G1 but that is it. dont wanna see you lose $20 but it isn't true. Also RID was a different continuity also.
     
  17. Magelite

    Magelite I make stupid look good

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    Tell me, how, in under 100 years, and why, did the Autobots wipe all trace of their civilisation from earth, wipe all knowledge of earth from cybertron, and then on earth how did the humans lose all their advanced technology and lose all knowledge of their cybertronian allies?
     
  18. Silent_Magnus

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    In Japan it officially is.(through various retcons)
    Sad, but true. I personally keep it separate though.
     
  19. nkelsch

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    My head asplode when trying to ponder the Tarkara mega retconverse. I don't want to do this with animated.

    Multiverse is fine by me. Primus in infinite universes, Unicron moves from universe to universe. Animated is just another version of primus and the multiverse.
     
  20. Rod

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    Why do people read so much into a KID'S TV show?
     

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