Alpha Trion/OP/Smokescreen and rebrith of Primes

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  1. ILoveDinobot

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    So according the covenant of Primus, Optimus Prime is "Thirteen" one of the original Primes. The TF wiki says Orion Pax was Thirteen reborn.

    In Aligned Alpha Trion is a Prime, one of the 13 original.
    He kept Orion with him in the Iacon Hall of records.
    In Prime, the matrix chooses Smokescreen.
    Smokescreen was also trained/mentored in the Iacon Hall of Records by Alpha Trion.

    In RID Optimus is in the realm of the Primes. We see several Primes give him power, I didn't count, but I don't think I saw 11 Primes. (13-2=11, the 2 not there would be Megatronus and Thirteen).

    So where is the other Primes?
    Is it possible that Smokescreen is also an original Prime reborn?

    Do you think it's possible to see any of that answered in RID?
     
  2. Weezie

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    No, I don't think it will be revisited again. I hope it doesn't to be honest. I found Smokescreen to be irritating, he was basically a poor man's Hot Rod.
     
  3. ILoveDinobot

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    And I do love Hot Rod. So I would love to see more of him. ^^
     
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    I really do not like Optimus being one of the 13. It makes him seem to old and just kind of makes him feel to invincible.
     
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    God, I hope not. I was so relieved when the producers realized they were writing themselves into a corner and frantically dropped the stupid Smokimus Prime story arc.
     
  6. Chris McFeely

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    So Optimus is accounted for.
    So's Alpha Trion.
    Megatronus is covered.
    Micronus appears a few times.
    Solus Prime and Liege Maximo are dead.
    Per "Exiles," Nexus Prime is split up into five bots around the universe.
    In addition to Micronus, there are five Primes in the realm - one is Vector. Another has tentacles, so is almost certainly Quintus.

    That's twelve, so - assuming that Trion, Solus, and Maximo are proper-dead and not in the realm - there's actually only one unaccounted for. As none of the Primes in the realm in RID are winged centaurs, it's probably Onyx who's the one we don't know about, leaving the other three to be Prima, Alchemist, and Amalgamous.
     
  7. DOTM Bumblebee

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    Honestly, I'm not sure if they will revisit that, and honestly, I'm kinda glad they won't. I'm so glad Optimus being of the Thirteen was never mentioned in the TF: Prime cartoon, allowing me to safely believe that Primes are, like in G1, appointed through showing good leadership skill.
     
  8. Murasame

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    Me too
     
  9. ILoveDinobot

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    But... do dead Primes always stay dead? ;) 

    Anyway, thanks for the info Chris. I do hope we learn more of the original 13 Primes as the series goes on. Even if they don't bring Smokey back, but I'd really like to see them go somewhere with him. The way they are making Bumblebee the leader now.
     
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    I would hate to see another hot rod/smokescreen/ anyone like them appear in a transformers show ever again.
     
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    Prime Smokescreen is actually my favorite Prime character. If a Prime character had to be next in line to be Prime, I'm glad it was him and not Bee.
    As for Hot Rod, he's always been my least favorite Transformer. I just found him beyond annoying.
     
  13. ILoveDinobot

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    Yeah, I don't mind Bee being a leader, but I would have disliked if he was the one chosen to be the next Prime. He and Smokescreen did have a small discussion about it in 1 episode and Bee said he didn't want to be Prime. We assume he said that anyway, it was more like "beep boop beep"