All Star Batman & Robin 2

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  1. Star Saber

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    Anyone read it yet?

    DC seriously should read their stuff first before advertising the All Star line as bringing "to the page what’s pure about the character – the iconic characteristics."

    Can you imagine some kid whose parent's read that line reading this and seeing batman call robin a "little bastard" and "a snot"? Hell, even miller's DKR didn't portray batman this badly.
     
  2. Xcandescent

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    I thought it was hysterical.

    I can't recall the last time Batman was written as a complete, raving lunatic. And really -- you'd have to be some kind of lunatic to basically kidnap a kid and ask him to become a sidekick; that's Miller's point.

    -XCN-
     
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    I'm LOVIN' the series... LOVIN' it...
     
  4. McBradders

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    I thought it sucked, it has until the end of the first arc to win me over, but dammit, the Joker has more compassion than this Batman.
     
  5. Razerwire

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    But if he shows compassion, then Robin will be a softie!!! And therefore won't evolve into Nightwing!!!
     
  6. McBradders

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    Thats bullshit.

    Face it, Frank Miller has gone doolally. The guy at the comic shop was all "Why aren't you getting the Miller cover? It's FRANK MILLER!" to which I replied "Does the Dark Knight Strikes Again ring any bells?" picked up my Jim Lee cover and left.
     
  7. j3

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    I dunno... yeah, Batman's not supposed to be this f-ing crazy this early in his career... but it does kind of make sense that he's trying to scare the kid right... I dunno...
     
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    The flying car was another rolleyes moment. LAME.
     
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    Hey now, if a superhero took me for a ride in his flying car I'd be his ward... he could even diddle my peni, all for the sake of the flying car!
     
  10. Razerwire

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    Refers to Dave Chappelle:

    "He made [Sin City] man... He made [Sin City...]":lol 
    :lol 
    Hey, at least he didn't say: "Roads??? Where we're going, we don't need ROADS..."
     
  11. DevilzFan

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    It sucked. There's no word to acurately describe the kind of suckage that the issue was.
     
  12. wheeljack01

    wheeljack01 Happiness is a warm gun

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    Soon as i read this i knew it sucked, the flying car, the off character batman,etc. I like miller but all of his batman past year has sucked(imo).
     
  13. DanoMcKenna

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    Ok, here's the deal, it was pretty lame. But not really for the reasons people have listed so far. The reason I thought it was lame was that they spent the ENTIRE issue, driving back to the Batcave and retelling what happened in the first issue. I thought that was lame.

    But I loved the first issue, and I think that this issue is going to read a lot better when it's part of a collection. See the thing is now, is that I look at it and go..."Ok, that was a waste of an issue" but a year from now, or two years from now, or whenever this is supposed to be done I'll read it and be like, "Oh, that's a coold little chapter that deals completely with Batman and Robin's first impressions of eachother."

    And a flying Batcar is nothing new to Frank Miller...
     
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    The out of sync laughing and torturing of Bats seemed to me an extreme version of Keaton's version of Batman or reminiscent of the Penguin in Batman Returns. Then again, this is Miller's writing.

    Other problem I have is with the whole cheesy fainting of Vicki Lake right after whispering "Batman." whoopeedoo.

    And did Bats in his "test" fry all those cops?
     
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    Flying Batcars is pretty mild, i'm sure Schiff era readers would have loved something as mundane as that rather then stories about a zebra-costumed Batman or aliens running Gotham.
     
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    I read this last night at the insistence of a friend. I was only four pages in when I had to say I agreed with him: this was bad. Really, really bad. But it's so damn bad that it's actually funny. And that made reading it worthwhile. :lol 
     
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    naw, but you see, when i saw that, i think it dawned on me what is REALLY going on...

    i think Miller is writing the story through Dick's eyes. little kids sometimes see the world differently and also exaggerate things that are going on around them. Dick has no idea who this guy is (Batman) and is probably scared...

    i dunno, my 2 cents...
     
  18. The Spider

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    If I read this instead of SPAWN/BATMAN way back when THAT came out, I would've complained about Batman being out of character, dialogue, etc.

    But I dunno, maybe because I've read SPAWN/BATMAN and read DK2 that I kinda expected this... and strangely enough, enjoyed it. This has parodying potential.
     
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    I enjoyed the issue...but then again anything Jim Lee pencils is golden for me.
     
  20. Wreckgar

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    That makes a ton of sense. Beside the flying car (which never happened), Batman was so out of character. This is probably what Dick thought happened.
     

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