All Hail Megatron: Coda to become AHM 13-16

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  1. col

    col ROCK LORD

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  2. Digilaut

    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    Hey, that's great! More overhyped All Hail Megatron issues! (that cover of Ironhide and Prime by Trevor Hutchison is VERY SWEET, though!!)
     
  3. Opticron Primal

    Opticron Primal Comin' up OOOs!

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    *sigh*

    You see what happens when you promise alot and can't deliver it?
     
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    Thundershot The guy with 28 Sweeps

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    AHM actually succeeded in making me drop a TF series for the first time ever... I loved what was going on before it, though. It feels like an alternate reality...
     
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    I actually really enjoy it! The best Comics version of Transformers yet!
     
  6. Opticron Primal

    Opticron Primal Comin' up OOOs!

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    Your kidding, right? I mean, I'm still reading it, but "Best TF comic yet" should go to the "-tion" series.
     
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    The "-tion" series just lead up to what we have now... This is the "Adult" version of Transformers I have always wanted.
     
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    Opticron Primal Comin' up OOOs!

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    But whatever. As long as you enjoy it.
     
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  9. Digilaut

    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    Your rightful opinion :)  but to me, AHM has so far become exactly what I would NOT want to see:

    Trying to be an 'adult' comic that a part of the TF fans really wanted, but not knowing how to bring this. In short: trying to be badass but failing. endless human killing for the sake of..what? because it's adult? Introducing Spike Witwicky as a total bike-riding badass, like a John Connor from Terminator 3 on steriods - living off the grid because he's a REBEL OMG?

    It's not adult to me, it's immature.

    Also, the drawings and colors leave much to be desired in my opinion. Some panels look very awesome, some look horribly bland. I think it shows the problem with some Transformers pencillers: they can draw magnificent robots, but aren't that great in drawing humans.

    Colors are very gritty, with some palet choices that work out very well at times, but like the linework, is a total miss at other times. They colorist made everything so gritty and gray, black characters are no longer black, but blueish gray...

    I DO love Trevor Hutchison's covers!

    In all honesty though, my problems with the art would be much less great if I had thought the story was actually good. But because I don't like that at all, these are kinda added to my existing frustration. My main concerns lie with the plot.

    If I remember correctly the writer, Shane McCarthy, wasn't a fan of Bayformers, BY FAR. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I read that in an interview once. So what does the guy do? Try to write a 'mature' Transformers story that is pretty much the comics equivalent of the live-action movie he dislikes. Dumb and immature.

    I'm not totally negative about it though. People aren't flawless, and I guess creating comics is a tough job (and you can't please everybody), but those are things that make me dislike AHM. Just my two cents (bitching about stuff is easy!), and I am in no way trying to persuade anyone into not liking AHM. :) 
     
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    Same here. I thought it had potential when it first started but the pacing amoung other issues (continuity, characterization, changing artists, etc.) has been terrible IMO.
     
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    I'll wait to buy the next TPB before I form judgement on AHM. I've heard it's gotten both better and worse after where I left off.
     
  12. llamatron

    llamatron Shut up, Nigel. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Anything is better than -tion.

    HEY GUYS THUNDERWING IS BACK AGAIN, CALL THE WRECKERS! YOU REMEMBER THOSE DUDES, RIGHT?

    Still loving Hutch's covers.
     
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    The length of this thing is getting a little ridiculous. Why don't they just drop "All Hail Megatron" from the title and just make it a Transformers ongoing, putting a stop to the never-ending parade of miniseries?
     
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    Wow....I know I'm late to the party....but I thought this was only going to be 12 issues. When and why is it being extended?
     
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    I am with you on that. I would like to see an on-going instead of all the miniseries...

    I agree on the art with some. The bots look great but, people are sub-par (in fact in some cases below). With that said, I think the story is solid with a few continuity issues but, hopefully those get worked out soon...

    My only gripe is the human art. Everything is top notch. I think I also read somewhere that this has been the best selling series so far... So I don't think it can be as bad as some are making it out to be... Just my humble opinion...
     
  16. Digilaut

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    Maybe because this way, instead of one coda with one cover, IDW can release 3 issues, all with 3 different covers so all cover collectors can buy the same issues all over again, thus boosting sales?

    This is something that is starting to slightly tick me off with IDW..seems a cheap way to boost sales to me. Just release additional covers, some which look better than the regular covers..or some have materials applied to them that makes them cooler (like matte/shiny differences), and you can sell the same book at least twice.
     
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    The art problem isn't limited to this book either. I see it with Alex Milne's stuff too. Super-complicated bots that look wicked, but in high contrast, plain looking generic humans. Some even with unrealistic anime haircuts and what-not.

    I do think bigass robots is kind of a niche in the comicsworld that not many people are experienced drawing with. Alot of the comics are of course superhero stuff, and then some more non-robotic stuff, so if you are able to continually draw quality robots such as Transformers, theoretically you would be able to get inside this part of the market relatively fast. Unfortunately in alot of instances it also seems true that these people have practiced so much time on robots, but much less on human characters or backgrounds, so these become lacking...which becomes visible very fast seeing as human characters are pretty much essential in the Transformers franchise (or at least take up some good space and time).

    It seems for Transformers one would have to be an expert in both robotics and humans, which for alot of illustrators can be two worlds just as far apart as modern art and a renaissance painting. Getting both sides equally right in quality is a feat not mastered by many...so in the end, I guess it is better to have someone who draws Transformers better than humans..but it's still a big shame. Especially when your whole story revolves around human interaction..

    Because it sells good doesn't mean it's good. Not that I really care, I fricking love Bayformers, that sold very well too and isn't top quality to many people, either. :)  The fact that it sells good means alot of people DO like it, so more power to them.

    edit: whoops, forgot this would end up a double-post.
     
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    Don's the same way. His robots look superb, but his humans need work... Not that I could do better, but look at Marvel and DC for comparison...
     
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    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    Exactly. But what you see in most superhero stuff is..once a robot pops up, he is just as unimaginative as a human is in a Transformers comic. Like I said, it's two very different roads in illustration, so it's hard to be able to draw them both perfectly (or at least up to quality). :)  I do think it hampers the TF comics though.
     
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    I agree. When I first read the AHM TPB, I honestly couldn't tell why this guy who was chased by Ravage all of a sudden had a son, then died, only to turn out to be Spike. Like WTF? Only after re-reading those pages did I catch that it was different people, they just looked SO similar.


    Maybe when AHM is done they can drop all these almost trivial subplots and just have one story, with maybe other, more meaningful plots for bigger characters.
     

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