Hi, All of you know that the gas prices have gone through the roof. I hope all of you know that the price is only going to go higher as we move years, decades, and centuries into the future. Some facts aren't debatable. Fact: there is only a set (finite) amount of fossil fuels in the ground. The world will eventually HAVE to switch to something else for energy. Coal, oil, natural gas, liquefied natural gas will all run out. I think the government is pulling a fast one on us by talking about "flex fuels", ethanol, natural gas, or hydrogen (fuel cell) vehicles. The fact is that ethanol actually produces more smog than normal gasoline. The fact is that ethanol reduces gas mileage as it is burned less efficiently than gasoline. You sometimes barely break even with the amount of energy required to create ethanol as ethanol produces. A byproduct of combusting ethanol is water. Water is harmful to a regular combustion engine and the engines have to be designed differently to handle ethanol. Ethanol also cannot be shipped via pipelines and will require freights to carry it to supply terminals - truck, rail, vehicles, etc. Thus it is more expensive purely due to the distribution cost. Ethanol cannot be piped as it corrodes pipelines. As far as "fuel cells", they too have their disadvantages. Fuel cells run on hydrogen. Of course, hydrogen isn't normally found naturally in the environment. It is the most highly reactive element (one proton, one electron). Also, hydrogen needs to come from somewhere - and guess what - it comes from fossil fuels! It costs energy to create it. Of course, I think I have what I see as a solution to all this. SOLAR POWER. Solar Power is clean. Plants use the sun for energy, why can't we harness the sun also? Think of it - no more need for coal, oil, gas. No more need to pay at the pump, pay electric bills, pay heating bills. Add solar panels to your roofs and your energy source is guaranteed. Store the excess energy for cloudy days or sell it back to the grid for a profit! With the mass production of solar panels and greater technical progress, it will become a viable option. You can even use the solar panels to power your electric car! Electric cars have poor ranges now (40 - 80 miles) but with the advent of LiOn (Lithium Ion) batteries - the ones found in laptops - they can get the range of cars today. Of course, this will harm the livelihoods of millions of people. People in the oil industry, utilities industry, coal industry, shipping industry, gas station owners, mechanics who work on the internal combustion engine, etc and ALL family members will have to find a different livelihood. So what do you guys think? What are your thoughts? TFW2005 Board Moderators: Would this thread be alright to move to the General TF Discussion Forum? That Forum is seen more often and I am curious to what the regular American thinks of this issue. Gas prices are on everyone's minds and I want to ask you if it is ok for me to post this thread on that forum?