Customs: a repaint question

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  1. fishformers

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    My prequel to the seeker storm

    YouTube - fishformers's Channelshould i put a coat of white spray paint befor adding a base coler

    THIS IS NOW WHERE IM GOING TO POST PICS

    AND QUESTIONS


    Q#1
    IS IT A GOOD IDEA TO USE SPRAY PAINT FOR THE BASE COAT AND PRIMER

    Q#2
    IF YES ON Q#1 WHAT BRAND SHOULD I USE

    Q#3
    IF I GET PAINT ON THE JOINTS WILL IT STIFFIN THE JOINTS SO THEY ARE HARD TO MOVE

    Q#4
    I DONT WANT TO REPAINT THE HEAD AND IM MOST LIKLY USEING SPRAY PAINT HOW DO I KEEP THE SPRAY PAINT FROM REACHING THE HEAD
     

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  2. Switch625

    Switch625 "Up, up, and away!"

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    I think the pros will probably tell you priming the figure is the way to go. It helps the color you paint over top of it pop more, plus it gives it something to hold onto.

    That said, I rarely do it and I think I get pretty good results.
     
  3. TonyzCustomz

    TonyzCustomz Am I doin it rite? TFW2005 Supporter

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    Yes, white will help make the bright colors look great without a million coats(not literal). The primer will also help make the paint stick if your not using a krylon Fusion(or equivalent) that is made for plastic for the base colors in the first place.
     
  4. fishformers

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    Thanks

    scince im going to use bright colers im going to prime it
     
  5. deliciouspeter

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    Also make sure you prep your figure with either paint thinner or rubbing alcohol to remove the mold release coating.
     
  6. fishformers

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    i cant just paint over
     
  7. autobotx23

    autobotx23 Banned

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    You could, but you may not like the result. You always want to start with a "clean slate" meaning you want to take off all factory paint and apps, so your paint will shine!
     
  8. Rhinox555

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    Nope, it won't stick if you don't clean it first.
     
  9. frenzyrumble

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    I run a wash on every part with paint thinner. this breaks down the factory debris and oil from your hands. you'll notice the plastic's finish/surface dulls down, that a good thing.

    As far as priming, I recommend Krylon fusion. I just heard from someone else that it's even safe for priming vinyl and softer plastics. It comes in a rainbow of colors, and you're best bet would be to prime with the color which you'll be using as the base coat (eg blue arm would be primed with blue) Personally, if the color isn't available through Fusion, I custom make it and air brush it on.

    You'll soon learn that making darker plastics lighter in color takes some patience and work. A good medium to cancel out ANY color behind it is gray or silver. If for example you're painting a black figure white, only 1 coat of gray/silver primer would make the transition 100000 times easier.
     
  10. fishformers

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    when you were talking about cleaning is it ok to use bleach
     
  11. REDLINE

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    no, soapy water only. and take it apart, then you don't have to worry about the head at all.
     
  12. fishformers

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    should i remove the pegs
     
  13. REDLINE

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    remove pins and screws, everything else is solid pieces. you just tug on the main wings to pop those off. you can remove the rivets on the connectors for those wings, too, but it's not necessary.
     
  14. TonyzCustomz

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    Water and soap never seem to be enough fro me and thinner is to volatile. I have had excellent results with a wash of 91% alcohol and a small toothbrush, be sure not to use it on the clear plastics though as it can make them brittle.
     
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    I thought he was talking about to clean them, not to remove paint. yes, 91% alcohol for removing paint.
     
  16. fishformers

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    what i ment was pins but is it completely nesesary beacuse 1 i dont know what to use and 2 is it hard to figure out which pin gose where
     
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    i ment to paint it
     
  18. TonyzCustomz

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    When you clean them you should always remove as much of the paint as you can, primer wont stick to the paint as well as it will the plastic.
     
  19. frenzyrumble

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    primer and especially fusion seem to orange peel on factory paint, or, after dry will look unever (factory paint is quite thick actually)

    To each his own about cleaning though. I've never had any problems using paint thinner. As it state on the Fusion can :

    For Best Adhesion:
    · Remove loose particles
    · Apply to dry surface
    · For New or Unweathered Surfaces: Quickly wipe over surface with standard paint thinner

    I realize this may scare some painters, but a key word there is quickly. Do not douse the figure with thinner, the thinner needs to be brush applied and if it builds up in some places, use a dry brush to sponge it out. I've heard rumors of decomposure with thinner + plastic, but have yet to see this first hand.

    All in all, you will hear several techniques to cleaning and prepping your figure. There's no definitive answer, but each will have it's ups and downs. Personally, I stay with the same process each time I paint, and have little to no rubbing, cracking or peeling issues.
     
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  20. Satomiblood

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    For my Crasher custom, I didn't bother to clean the figure or use alcohol/thinner. It was a straight repaint and it turned out very well. But I'm not here to say that you shouldn't prep the figure by cleaning it with a little soap and water or stripping the factory paint because that's good practice. The only time I've ever bothered taking such steps is when I've used apoxie, drilled or sanded the plastic, and used glue that left a caked residue on it.
     

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