One of the most common complaints that I have seen in the various threads about how horrible the movie supposedly is is that the humor was very juvenile. Commonly cited examples of this are Jetfire farting, dogs humping, Leo getting his balls tazed, Simmons in a thong, Sam's mom getting accidentally stoned, and, of course, Devastator's suggestively-placed wrecking balls. I can, as a Transformers fan, understand these complaints to a certain degree. However, as a member of the moviegoing public, I see little problem with this humor. Most of the general public finds it funny, if the laughter of the people in my theater was any indication. If people don't think that the theatre I was in is a valid example, how can you explain the success of films such as Borat, Pineapple Express, and Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle? The only major thing I see wrong with this humor being in a Transformers movie is it alienating parents who desperately want to shelter their children from the often inappropriate nature of reality (no offense meant to any of these people- I know people like this and they are good people, even if I don't necessarily agree with them). My question for the haters is this: if the humor in both films was so terrible, what kind of humor would make the films better and more sophisticated? Please use specific examples (for instance, "Character X would say ______, and Character Y would _______"). Keep in mind that the humor would have to appeal to a wide audience (in other words, don't suggest that the films use humor that caters exclusively to longtime fans, as the general audience won't have a clue what's going on) and that removing all humor (as has occasionally been suggested) would alienate quite a few people. Besides that, humor has always been an integral part of Transformers, going back as far as all the corny puns and the Decepticons' brief drunken stint in the original cartoon. What do you all think? MODS: If this thread dissolves into arguments and flame wars, please lock it immediately. I don't want to contribute to all of that. I just want to have a good-natured debate about how people think the movieverse humor should be.