OK, let me start by saying that I am not new to Ebay and have a great reputation for handling transactions there. I am the buyer in this circumstance. If you've seen my G1 stuff in my collection thread, then you know that I greatly value vintage items. However, recently a situation has come to a head and I would like some of your input on how to proceed. Here's how things have proceeded to this point: 1. I won a couple of auctions from a seller in Canada for some MOSC G1 items two weeks ago. 2. I pay for the items the next morning, using PayPal. The shipping is combined $23, which from Canada to the U.S. is fair. (Its actual cost was ~$21) 3. Yesterday, I get the items, packaged excellently and unharmed. One of the items, a MOSC Spinister, is perfect. I'm happy with that and set it aside. The other is a MOSC Squawktalk/Beastbox. Immediately upon inspection, I suspect that it's a knockoff. Input from another thread on this board confirms this info. without my bringing the "dead giveaways" up: Chinese markings and blacked out copyright text under the tech specs. This info. was new to me upon bidding for it, but from the auction pictures this Chinese text is not clearly visible. Since he was selling a bunch of vintage sealed items, I presumed the Beastbox/Squawktalk to be legit. 4. Aggravated by this fact because the auction advertised an original Squawtalk/Beastbox, I contact the seller to ask what gives, as I payed the value of what an original would cost. That would be $86, plus part of the $23 in the combined shipping. Before going to Ebay over the matter, I figured it was best to deal with the seller first to try to work things out, as he has 100% feedback with over 100 auctions. 5. After a few email exchanges, the seller agrees to refund me the money for the item upon sending it back to him, as he apparently didn't know they were fakes either. Great, right? Well, that's not unreasonable, but I'm weary of the idea of sending the item back to him without getting my money back first. Common sense concern, but I relent, as I was trying to be a good Ebayer. 6. I contact the seller to arrange a shipping address and terms of the reimbursement. All I request is to receive my money from the auction, which includes the shipping. I want a full refund, not part of one. I already paid for shipping the first time. 7. I get an email back this morning where he refuses to pay for shipping. 8. I email back politely refusing these terms. I want a full refund. So, how should I handle this next? I would like not to go through Ebay to rectify this, but the seller has relented in the emails that they're fakes and that I should get a refund, just not for shipping. In addition, I'm uncomfortable about sending the item back to him without some sort of protection from Ebay (like a standard auction). Sorry for the long-winded post, but this whole thing is frustrating.