A few instances of effects "cheating"

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  1. Shadow25

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    I'm not sure if this was done to save time or money or both. But did you notice how quite a bit of the transformations in the movie were shown only halfway or partially? Some examples: When Megs summons the Doctor, you see the microscope start to change shape, then it cuts to the Doctor already climbing up on Sam. Another instance was Ironhide driving off screen in Egypt and then jumping onto the screen as if he had just came out of a transformation. Also, the when the Twins were upgrading they split from the truck behind a curtain. A few Alice shots involved this as well, although that seems a bit more understandable.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Bottom Out

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    i was disapointed that we didnt see the twins change alt modes, that was a sort of cop out
     
  3. Starscreamer95

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    Hey, could have been worse, I mean, they used like 4 different shots from TF1 in this movie.
     
  4. Vexza

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    Really? What were they? I know the four protoforms coming down was one.
     
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    Predator (Global Hawk, actually) rear view in the desert was another
     
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    I never bought the non mass shifting. One has to realize that a car is essentially a shell - there's no way a Camaro contains enough mass for the whole Bumblebee. Unless the interior is packed full of metal.
     
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    It's close enough that a viewer wouldn't question it the way they would, say, a 30 foot robot shrinking into a 6 inch pistol.

    I noticed, but it didn't bother me. It was clear what was happening, and in most instances they gave you another full shot (we really wouldn't have needed to see the pretender transform entirely twice, for example). It saves money for other effects and cuts down on what's already too long of a movie.
     
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    i think the cut corners by having grindor/blackout in the forest scene. The constructicons as devi and individual self was another way of recycling. Yes, you guys can argue about clones/ devi being one separate bot/ etc... But I think the did that so that they didn't have to model an army of decepticons. Bonecrusher driving in the dessert was another wtf moment.
     
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    Well if they had done every transformation that would increased the budget for the film even more. And also taken more time to edit resulting in an even more hurried ending . .. .
     
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    When optimus transformed in the hanger/base whatever it was, was the same transformation/animation as when he first transformed in the ally in the first movie, just rendered from different camera angles. But he was going from a stand still truck, to a stand still robot, there was no point in re-working an entire new transformation, it wouldn't have been different enough, but its still re-used work.

    But yeah, I was really dissapointed in the lack of transformations in this movie. I know they are the hardest thing to do in the movies, but the first one, we had tons of them! The ally way with all the bots transforming for the first time, was fucking epic!

    Devastator was just as epic though when he transformed, I guess that's what happens when you make something that hgue and crazy, it takes up all your work time :p 
     
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    That has been an off screen thing for both movies. They never actually showed ANY of them changing into a new scanned mode from a prior scanned/protoform mode.

    They did it for all of them during the Autobot arrival sequence in TFTM too.

    I actually kind of liked that they did that off screen. Retains a little mystery about them. Almost like they get to change their cloths in private or something. Like a dressing room.

    I agree that it was a really cool scene, but it was also the most "cartoony" feeling scene in the whole movie.
     
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    The 4 Protoforms - Used in TF1 as the Autobots arrival.
    Predator - Used in the Scorponok Scene in the first movie.
    Decepticons coming down with The Fallen - Another Shot used from the Autobots Arrivael.
    I know they're was another one, I just cant put my finger on it.
     
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    Just think of him as Conebrusher :dunce 
     
  14. HerbieC

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    the blocked views of transformations happens a bit in the G1 cartoons. it saved them work/time/money and worked for most people. i thnk if we were to see every transformation, the pacing of the film would have been inconsistent.
     
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    The pacing of the film WAS inconsistent.
     
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    Those transformations are hell to do. With all the additional robots it's no wonder they skimped on the transformations. Sucks though, because the first one had some amazing ones: (Starscream transforming in mid-air, Optimus transforming while driving).
     

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