A/E/C Slugfest!

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by weeklyhero, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. weeklyhero

    weeklyhero Prototytan

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    Okay I'm basically stealing this topic from AutobotMarine (I hope you don't mind!).

    Which of the three chapters in the Universe Trilogy do you think would win in a fight? Consider the characters in each chapter their own distinct individual and not just an upgrade of each other (Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Hot Shot for example). And let's not count Unicron and Primus, shall we?
     
  2. Counterpunch?

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    Kind of a tough call between Armada and Energon...

    Minicons or Energon chips/weapons are going to be the deciding factors no matter what. As powerful as planet keys are, they pale by comparison.

    Minicons provide nearly limitless power and the three big weapons are a major factor.

    Energon weaponry/chips provide a variety of weapons and abilities. Not only that, but the Decepticons would have a near limitless supply of drone troops.

    I think Armada wins in the end. Both Megatron and Starscream were flat out harsh in the show. Prime has the most available upgrades and the Minicons are a factor I don't think either other show could overcome.
     
  3. Ironhide2005

    Ironhide2005 PS3tag=DeaDPooLTFW

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    I say armada
     
  4. Takeshi357

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    Cyb. Supreme Starscream would beat up everyone.
     
  5. weeklyhero

    weeklyhero Prototytan

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    Oh yeah I forgot that guy, but didn't Omega Supreme grow up to that size in the end of Energon?
     
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    Energon.

    While the storyline itself was weak, we got the following:

    - A shit ton of combiners (including 5 piece combiners again)
    - G1 accurate Galvatron figure (Energon Galvatron)
    - Slugslinger. 'nuff said.

    Don't forget Alpha Quintesson, the first human Transformers figure in a mainline (Kicker & Highwire), Omega Supreme who is a headmaster, and the drones were just cool (Battle Ravage with Megatron's fusion cannon, hot).

    Armada had the best storyline, Cybertron had the best toys, but Energon in my opinion just blows them out of the water.
     
  7. Takeshi357

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    I thought the idea was that the characters would be beating each other up...not compare the cartoons/toylines.
     
  8. SureShot90

    SureShot90 Peace=superior firepower

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    Who ever has the brains wins.
     
  9. weeklyhero

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    The brains?! No one in any of those series had brains.
     
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    SureShot90 Peace=superior firepower

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    That's why you had 3 series where none ever won. :p 
     
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    That alone was the deciding factor. Megatron, Galvatron, Galvatron G, whatever... he was badass and totally tips the scales.
     
  12. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

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    Assuming that everyone from each series was on the same side, rather than the three Megatrons teaming up for the ultimate victory, you'd have something like this:

    Armada:
    - An Optimus who reveled in fighting, yet also hated it. He's in theory got some serious firepower but would hesitate to pull the trigger.
    - Megatron - only average strength, but a thoroughly competant warrior. Lacks the brute strength of the other two, but he understands the importance of looking after his troops most of the time.
    - Minicons give everyone major power boosts.
    - Minicons can gain access to their own awesome powers.
    - If we do actually consider Unicron's presence (impossible not to, due to Sideways, the Minicons and especially the other dark servants from the Linkage manga), there are some pretty nasty characters that could, potentially, do a lot of damage. Nemesis Prime, for example, would shrug off anything short of disintegration.
    - Weaknesses - a lack of troops. Mostly Minicons and a few Transformers, the united Armada cast would get swept aside by the larger casts of the other series. Minicon ports exist in the other series, though there are not as many, so other characters could hijack Minicons and boost the power for their series, reducing the effectiveness of Minicons. Additionally, non-Master Key empowered Minicons would merely be crushed underfoot by other, larger, Transformers.

    Energon
    - Optimus - very powerful, less restrained in combat. Possibly the most powerful of the three in any of his super modes, possessing some awesome firepower, like the massive burst of homing lasers in his initial supermode.
    - Megatron - on paper, he's got a load of powers, though he rarely used them in the series. Maybe he couldn't control them effectively? At any rate, his ability to "infect" others to force them to join his cause, his ability to utilize Unicronian cells to reformat his soldiers and the fact that he is a powered up version of Armada Megatron make him extremely powerful. Probably the most powerful Megatron of the three if you take into account the fact he's effectively an avatar of Unicron.
    Starscream - he's a ghost, he can phase in and out to evade opponents and get the drop on them. Naturally, this would give him an edge, though a lack of creative tactics means once the enemy figured him out, he'd be relatively easily dispatched.
    Drone soldiers - both sides have drones - Omnicons and Terrorcons, for Autobot and Decepticon, respectively. While Terrorcons could use sheer numbers to slow down anything coming to attack the Energon crew, the Omnicons could be reinforcing defences, and both could be passing on Energon stars.
    Omega Supreme - he's big. He stomp on you.
    Weaknesses - Energon Stars / Weapons have a time limit on them. While they might be good for an initial power boost, once the battle is underway and they get used up, the Energon forces would be left slightly vulnerable. And while the Autobots can link up for more power, most of the combinations would not provide enough of a power boost to make up for the fact you're taking a soldier off of the battlefield to do this. Add in the fact that the Terrorcons are very easy to destroy, and both Armada and Cybertron characters have enough firepower to take out dozens of them in a single shot, and really, their effectiveness is reduced.

    Cybertron
    Numbers - There are more actual characters in Cybertron than either of the other series. This gives them a great advantage, especially against the Armada series. Plus, there are the Scrapmetal hordes, which are at the very least on a par with the Terrorcons.
    Optimus - Pretty powerful, his supermode guns can clear a battlefield of weaker soldiers fairly easily, although he cannot auto aim like Energon. His powered up forms are more specific than the other series, though - Liger Convoy is useless in a firefight, and Sonic Wing is mainly built for speed, although it possesses some decent firepower.
    Megatron - quasi-darkside of the force abilities, and some decent firepower in that handgun of his, but he's no Energon Megatron.
    Super Starscream - the Super says it all. A giant Starscream, although he isn't all that powerful for his huge size. Probably would end up being a nice big target for the Terrorcons.
    Vector Prime - limited time travel, although it drains him to use it, he could in theory reverse the course of time and then alter it, changing the outcome of events. Effectively, he could keep his distance, work out how the battle goes, then change time to ensure a Cybertron victory.
    Weaknesses - Force Chips are very limited in nature - a one off power boost, while the other two series get longer term boosts. Half the forces would not understand what the other half are saying because of their accents. Additionally, Cybertron characters seem to be easier to knock down / wound with conventional firepower than the cast of other series.
     

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