a deal too deluxe?

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  1. Funky Munky

    Funky Munky G.I. Formers & Trans-Joe TFW2005 Supporter

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    So why weren't the deluxe Insecticons and vehicles (Whirl and Roadbuster) in the original cartoon?

    I have Buster, he's cool with all those accessories.

    And what was why Skyfire that caused him only to be featured in Season 1?
     
  2. MrSoundwaveGuy

    MrSoundwaveGuy I've made a huge mistake

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    They weren't in the show because they were licensed molds from other toy companies and they didn't want to promote another company's toy. Jetfire was a bigger toy though so he was put in the show, albeit with a very different design from the toy.
     
  3. mx-01 archon

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    Well, it's not so much that they didn't want to promote another company's toy. Hasbro legally licenced the toys for sale in North America, so they were their toys. Bandai didn't have their toys on American shelves, so that wasn't the problem.

    In all likelihood, the license to use those characters extended only to the toys themselves, and the limits of the agreement meant that their likenesses couldn't be used in the other media.

    Jetfire was a big toy, though, so they probably figured he needed more promotion. But due to the above, they couldn't use him as-is, so they created Skyfire for the show/comics in his stead. Then they probably just stopped using him in the show when the toy was no longer being sold.
     
  4. Funky Munky

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    So these were Bandai as opposed to Takara?
    My word, did every toy company love transforming robots or robots in general?
     
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    you have NO idea how popular transforming robots was back in the late 70's early 80's lol
     
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    the actual skyfire toy or jetfire was from the robotech stuff that bandai did if im not mistaken

    and yeah robots were super popular
     
  7. turboedguy

    turboedguy minibotologist

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    QFT!

    Everybody was dipping their pen in that ink!
     
  8. Funky Munky

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    Yes, I have the very last issue of G1 comic. Didn't the colorist who colored every issue, Nel Yomtov say something about the 80's were robots.
    "Tons of toy factories had their robot lines going."
     
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    Jetfire stopped showing up the the cartoon during Season 2 because Hasbro wanted to market Omega Supreme as the Autobots' way of getting around and to sell the OS toy.
     
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    grimlock1972 "No Mas" My Wallet

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    yup he was in fact there some early examples of Jetfire with the Macross emblem on his wings. Roadbuster and Whirl were from the Dorvack series no idea if the Deluxe Insecticons were ever featured in anime.
     
  11. Funky Munky

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    Well why not have both?
     
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    Dunno, go ask the 1984 Hasbro team. But seeing as they were both big toys, and OS was the newest, hottest girl in school, I am sure Hasbro would push him over Jetfire.
     
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    i always wanted to get my hands on those deluxe insecticons but i dont think i ever saw them at a store back in the day.
     
  14. mx-01 archon

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    The cartoon was an advertising medium first and foremost.

    Jetfire was an older toy that was no longer going to be offered for sale, and the show didn't really represent the toy all that well anyways, and Omega Supreme was a toy that they did have the license to use to likeness of in other media (despite not being a Takara toy), so they were going to milk that for all its worth.
     
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    From TFWiki...

    Roadbuster and Whirl were also Takatoku molds, so the same reason applies to those.

    And Jetfire/Skyfire...

     

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