A big word: SCALE

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Brenttoo, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Brenttoo

    Brenttoo Well-Known Member

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    Just something that makes me really, really mad, and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way. Maybe I'm just the type of toy collector who sees a problem with taking a robot that transforms from a 60-foot F-22A Raptor jet, and posing him looking up at a robot that transforms from a 12 foot Hummer. I know Hasbro has different size classes for this reason, but I just feel that they waste the possibilities sometimes. And before anyone brings up the cost of plastic and availability (and God-forbid, the word 'economy'), I understand that it is neither plausible or realistic to expect them to release all transformers toys in appropriate scale to one another. But wouldn't that be great? (I must also state that I am making this point mostly with the movie line in mind, just because it logically exists in the real world, where the laws of measurement and mass more strictly apply). They have every possible facet in their repetoire, ranging from Legends class(Arcee?) to Ultimate class (Blackout?), and it breaks my heart to have to stretch my imagination just to stomach the sight of my Voyager Blackout dwarfed by my Leader Megatron. Keep in mind, these characters wouldn't be restricted to only these scales, mind you. But somebody please tell me this has occurred to them as well?
     
  2. Starscreamer95

    Starscreamer95 'Civil' Nintendo Fanboy

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    If Hasbro reads this the World will be thrown into a land of Chaos. And you will be hated...
     
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    I want each and every Decepticon toy in 1:1 scale. Especially G1 Scorponok.
     
  4. Deadpool.

    Deadpool. I want my bird.

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    Yesss.... For me, a 1:1 scale Unicron and Primus. But then again, where would I keep them?
     
  5. red00wolf

    red00wolf insatiable collector

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    Just store em with primes traler.
     
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    Well......I agree the whole situation is rather annoying but what are you gonna do...
    Actually there is something that I would do.
    I accept that the movie and cartoon guys loving pushing this idea of the Cons overpowering and towering over the Bots. Though this works for dramatic purposes it does not work at all for toy sales because you could release all these huge expensive decepticon toys.
    What I would like hasbro to do is plan out what the biggest size class they can do the second tier characters and set the scale from there. Because we know the first tier characters like Megs and Primes will get multiple price points. So in animated for example we know that Lugnut is probably not going to be any bigger so if you set the scale from him you get:
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    As you can see we already have some of these toys and it would be rather easy to do. Cmon Hasbro you can figure this stuff out without my help
     
  7. dorfsquest

    dorfsquest Bing B-Bing Bing!

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    If the movie figures were in scale, half of the decepticons would be leader class and hasbro sells ten dollar toys more than forty dollar ones.

    Some of us would like it but not their entire market.
     
  8. Dom

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    A set scale would be great, but its not going happen. I have had issues with TFA/Uni and scale, but then I look at G1 with Shockwave and Broadside and they just aren`t as big a problem for me. Just don`t know why though?
     
  9. Seth Buzzard

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    I love things to be in scale as much as the next guy but going back to the beginning scale has never been a factor with Transformer toys. It's something you just have to live with.
     
  10. Ceerad

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    I'm really shocked that people get all worked up about the scale of toys vs movie or cartoon.
    Is it really that important?
    It's certainly not practical by any means.
    Scale is overrated.
    All TFs should be Voyager and Deluxe size.
    I would spend a hell of a lot less money.
    I'm more impressed by good engineering with a complex transformation in a Deluxe than in a Leader or Supreme.
     
  11. BrokenSVT

    BrokenSVT It's not broken anymore.

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    A big word: AGE

    Most folks(myself included at TIMES) haven't figured out that we're all grown-up now. These little plastic items we waste SO much money on are(gasp) toys. Toys are meant for(gasp) kids. Kids don't have tons of money, and most parents either can't or won't shell out massive amounts of cash for toys.

    To dorfsquest's point above, Hasbro sells FAR more $10 toys than $40 toys. Interesting eh?
     
  12. rollout!

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    Here Here, I agree completely! As long as I can afford 'em I'll buy 'em - for my son, obviously....
     
  13. Brenttoo

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    I suppose thats all fair. Certainly not the most trivial detail, it doesn't need to be scrutinized too crazily. And again, I didn't mean Hasbro wasn't doing a good job, I'm just saying, hypothetically, it might sell the illusion a little more believably. But it would mostly just be fun.
     
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    when i was a child i didnt care about scale, you are not the target audience.
     
  15. Digilaut

    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    I definitely wish some toys were bigger just to be somewhat in scale, but alas, that's not realistic from a business point of view. :( 
     
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    Considering the idea for Transformers in the first place was scrapped together from 2-3 different Japanese toylines, therefore most of the toys were made by several different companies, the toys have never been to scale. Ever.

    You say inaccurate, I say "sticking to its roots" :cool: 
     
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    This is why Alternators were so great. Part of the why anyway. I'm no scale whore, so I simply skip the ones that don't work for me. As I type this, I'm gazing up at a scorpion next to a firetruck that are roughly the same size.
     
  18. Shockscream

    Shockscream Chairman of Nerd Day

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    Scale doesn't bother me. I wish some toys were bigger and some were smaller but that's just the way of things. You dance with the girl that brung ya. I don't think Bumblebee deserved an Ultimate-class figure for the TF1 line; I believe Jazz should've been a Voyager; and I believe Scorponok should have been completely redesigned. Such is the way of the world, though...
     
  19. OMEGAPRIME1983

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    I've thought about this a few different times too, but I deal with it. Common, its transformers fer cryin out loud, the mass shift! Lol.
     
  20. Brenttoo

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    Yes, the infamous mass shift! I agree, I think the classic lines work better when the character's sizes are based more on things like their popularity with the kids who would be buying them. But again, with the release of this huge movie comes the realization that Transformers has become a force of nature all itself, popular among adults just as much, if not more, than with today's kid generation who have so many, many more cartoon options than we had. So with the widened fan base, different standards and preferences emerge, despite whats realistic for business. I'm not trying to refute Transformers history or accomplish anything; just seeing if anybody else has ever thought this.
     

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