2 questions regarding the 80's animated movie and g1 season 3

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  1. GENOZAUR

    GENOZAUR Banned

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    people i got 2 questions.

    how would the 80's animated movie have gone over at the time if the movie had ended with a set of scenes like this?
    Rodimus Prime stood before a balcony, trying to determine what to say to his allies, who had accepted him as leader and bearer of the Matrix. He didn't think himself worthy, but conditions had refused him any other option. So there he stood. .A new age is upon us now. By banding together, Mecha, Femme, Junkion, Human, and even Orphans we have saved our very existence. We have saved our Universe, preserved our way of life, destroyed the greatest threat to our galaxy, and sent an army bent on conquest to the far reaches of known territory. this day is the beginning of a new age, an age of peace and harmony Opening his mouth, he finally found the right thing to say. "Let this mark the end of the Cybertronian Wars, as we march forward to a new age of peace and happiness. Till all are one!" and with that thought voiced aloud he contemplated the past.

    we will remember those who we traveled with. He thought to himself, To the last hour, the last day, the last mile of the road we travel. until the day when all are one. "I don't know if I will ever be the great leader that you were, Rhodimus Prime thought to himself, but for sure I’ll give it my best shot" "rest in peace Optimus Prime." He said to himself. Rest in peace, father "Till all are one!" repeated the gathered Autobots. Kup, Springer, and Arcee joined hands with Wreck-Gar, who was to become the first ally in this new era. "Till all are one!". "Till all are one!" "Till all are one!" repeated the gathered Autobots. Kup, Springer, and Arcee joined hands with Wreck-Gar, who was to become the first ally in this new era. "Till all are one!". " Cheering, the gathered crowd repeated the statement at ear shattering volume. “TILL ALL ARE ONE!” Leaving the partying crowd, the new Prime walked off on his own, but was soon found by ultra magnus, who gave him a pat on the back

    “We did it Roddy, we won. The Decepticons are scattered, their leader has been deactivated permanently, and you’re the new Prime. Optimus would be proud of you…I know I am.” Sighing softly, Rodimus turned his optics to his old friend, a line of fluid running down his cheek. “Would he be magnus? I’m the reason he's dead, and nothing I do will ever remove that taint from my Spark.”“But Roddy….”“No buts magnus. I know I never intended for it to happen but just the same i have only myself to blame for his passing. nothing you or anyone else tells me will ever change that otherwise. i can only hope that i will prove myself worthy of this role bestowed upon me. perhaps i can redeem myself by my actions in life from this moment forward..Looking towards the heavens, Rodimus sighed and wiped the fluid from his optics.” I hope I’m doing the right thing Optimus. I know you’re up there….please guide me to do the right thing.”

    "If- if you don't feel ready for this, we can wait . . ," he murmured. The Autobot leader shook his head and rested one hand on his chest, directly above the flames emblazoned there. The seams of his chestplate seemed to glow with a supernatural azure light- the light of the Matrix, ultra magnus suddenly realized- and Rodimus's face softened. A gentle smile lit his face as the fear in his optics bled away into an eerie calm. ultra magnus felt chills run down his body; it suddenly seemed as though the two of them were no longer alone in the area. the air began to shimmer around them, the area in front of them became bathed in a blinding white light. slowly but surely the light began to take shape and form in front of them. the features were blurry at first as it began to slowly take one step and then another step away from the light emminating from behind it. someone was walking towards them from the other side of the matrix. magnus could sense more then see who it was. a legendary warrior stood before them restored to his youth. he stood tall and proud in the red, white and blue colors he so proudly wore in life. the age no longer visable on his face and body. the hero in his youngest days his youth restored to him in full. he stood there next to Rhodimus holding out his left hand. Rodimus lifted his hand off his chest and laid it back by his side. The hand was reflexively clenched in a half-fist, like a small child's hand as it grasps the hand of it's parent. "when i am gone, came the thoughts to the two in a unbidden manner as rhodimus and magnus realised the ghost was speaking to each of them "my strength will fill you, use it well." "Rule with justice, rule with compassion, rule with kindness and with honor and wisdome for those who are our allies as well as those who were our enemies"

    the father was there for his son plainly visable to the both of them not entirely solid but physical enough to be felt by the 2 of them. my brother, my comrade, my friend may you rest in peace magnus thought as he saw his brothers spiret standing before them as alive and lively as he had ever been in life, even his injuries from his final battle had been fully healed. casting his gaze upon his brother the ghost spoke once more "Fear not my brother, peace has come at last" "I'm ready, 'magnus. Do what you have to." " . . . But- are you sure?" He shook his head, the faint smile still playing on his lips. "It's all right. After all," and the Matrix light flickered and strengthened, "I'm not alone."

    time would eventually heal him of his wounds and he would go on to prove to be worthy of his new role in life. The sun rises over Cybertron The Autobots had won, but the Decepticons were not extinct, only driven away. There would be years of hardship ahead rebuilding the wreck that Cybertron had become, but the large-scale war had finally ended.

    Some time later, we see a large round table. Seated there are Rhodimus, Arcee, Soundwave, Cyclonus, Kup, ultra magnus, springer, Scourge, Grimlock, and Blitzwing. We hear Rhodimus's voice: "It was a world transformed. Things were not what they seemed." We see a new symbol on the command center of Cyberton--a combination of the Autobot and Decepticon symbols. "After the last Cybertronian war there was peace at last. Autobot and Decepticon met each other as equals, and finally there was lasting peace." "For those who tried to manipulate us. . ." We see the ruins of of the Hall of leaders, most especially the remains of Galvatrons cruiser. ". . .and those who tried to dominate us. . ." We see the remains of Unicrons body floating through space. ". .And the worst among us were gone at last. We see a tomb dedicated to Megatron greatest leader of the Decepticons ..We were the masters of our own destiny. We had reached the end of the road, and the road led to a new road, a road traveled as one. And we will look to the horizon with hope. . ." We see Springer and Arcee with a smaller robot, possibly theirs. ". . .we will remember those who we traveled with. . ." We pan a hall of fallen warriors--Ironhide, Ratchet , Huffer, Brawn, Wheeljack, Windcharger, Tracks, Raul, Prowl, Optimus Prime and thier fellow autobots who gave their lives for the cause at autobot city are represented as statues as well as Thundercracker, Skywarp and Megatron in the hall of hero's ". .To the last hour, the last day, the last mile of the road we travel. . ." The sun rises over Cybertron. ". . until the day when all are one. . ."


    and my other question is this

    how would season three have gone over withthe fan base if it had ended with ultra magnus being in the role of optimus prime?

    now throughout the return of optimus prime storyline it had instead played out with him transforming to robot mode minus his power up trailer armor with his taking that journey into the matrix with the result being that bewteen taking that journey, baring the matrix inside his inner core body and merging with the trailer armor the result would be that he literally splits into 2 living beings in which one happens to be ultra magnus himself in a new body with the other being optimus prime restored to live and otherwise reincarnated into a new body. a body in which optimus sports his powermaster body and trailer armor due to his having inherited from magnus ultra magnus's original vehiclle mode.

    bascily people a take on the whole duex ex machina scenario
     
  2. FreshDebesh

    FreshDebesh <b><font color=brickred>oye chak de phatte!</font> Veteran

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    No offense, but there are alot of run-on sentences going on in your post. Might wanna use some more periods and what not to make it easier on the eyes.
     
  3. Altercron

    Altercron Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Clean up the grammer and I'll give it another read.
     
  4. Lord Of Tetris

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    Please don't take this the wrong way, but with such a lengthy post, it sounds more like you're asking for fan-fiction feedback. It reads more like an outline for a fan fiction than a question like, "How do you think season 3 would've been affected if Galvatron never killed Starscream?"

    Also, as the past few guys said, it would help if you cleaned up the grammar. I gave up after the first few sentences.

    Among there, though, I saw you ask what would happen if Ultra Magnus was the Autobot leader. Well...season 3 would probably be better. I didn't like how Magnus never once talked to Rodimus about wanting to be the leader. Magnus sort of just lost the Matrix and accepted it without much argument. I would've liked some acknowledgement that Magnus either wished or detested being the Autobot leader.
     
  5. aussiehippy

    aussiehippy Au contraire, Blackadder.

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    To be honest, I think the whole scene you wrote out for the end of the movie would have been a bit of a clunky ending to a film, it was much better to simply end as it did.

    However, season 3 could have benefitted from Ultra Magnus having a leader role for at least a little while.

    And I don't think Powermaster Prime toy came a long till after the end of the cartoon? It turned up in Japanese cartoon continuity.
     
  6. REMINATOR

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    Yeah, I agree there should be some sort of acknowledgement from Magnus in TFTM. Due to this lack of explanation, some fans felt Rodimus stripped the Matrix or leadership from Magnus. Another thing which always bother me is that in the U.S. TFTM poster, they portraited Magnus character as the center of the poster yet his role in the movie disappeared half way of the movie. He didn't show up again until the end.

    Again, I also thought season 3 Magnus was better too. He actually fought more with Galvatron than Rodimus did. Moreover, he made more TV appearances than Rodimus so the writers in a way does favor him.
     

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