007: Quantum of Solace

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  1. Soundwave84

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    I really want to see this movie!!!
     
  2. Galaxy Convoy

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    I'm sure this movie will be good, but it'll probably turn out like the last one. I liked it, it was a good action flick. But that's the problem, it was an action flick. It didn't feel like a James Bond movie at all, to me anyway.
     
  3. AnimatedFan

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    I would like more Bond in the new series. At moments, it's got that Bond feeling that would put a smile on Fleming's face. Other times, it's...trying to be Bond.

    I don't want them trying to make it Bond, I want them to just do it. "Do or do not, there is no try."

    And I still don't get what's up with all the hate for Die Another Day. It's a little long, yes. The Sci-Fi aspect goes a bit too far in spots, yes. But it's still a fun and enjoyable romp with a lot of fun in mind.

    Granted, D.A.D. went a bit too far in one direction, while C.S. and QoS are going waaay too far in the other.

    I realize the lines Bond has used are cheesy, but when you don't use his trademark "Bond, James Bond" or "Shaken, not stirred" lines, it just kinda feels like they've kicked your puppy.

    I don't mind the absence of the gadgets (although realistic gadgets would be nice. At least try and have some semblance of the original in this reboot...) and I guess I don't miss Q (because you can't replace Desmond Llewelyn, though you have to give John Cleese some credit, those were might big shoes to fill.) but I'd like to see a new Moneypenny.

    They've tried to distance themselves from the old Bond so much that it doesn't feel much like him at all, really. I mean Fleming's work was more this style, but even it was outlandish (otherwise it wouldn't have sold) and this is so rooted in reality that it takes away the fun factor of it all.

    People complain about Bay's Transformers and how it was changed from the original for the reboot, well at least he got it somewhat right.

    Prime was still Prime (although a bit short tempered.)
    Ironhide was still grumpy and cantankerous.
    Etc.

    Granted, the robot designs and the "humans first" focus was a bit wonky, but in the end it was a great experience and revitalized the franchise. It was enough of the new, with enough of the old.

    Bond hasn't fared well in that department. Can you hire someone to find a gray area? Because they really could use some help with that.
     
  4. shibamura_prime

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    ^Hit the nail on the head.
     
  5. DeathsHead

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    I saw it yesterday. Its....ok.

    Action scenes are far too choppy with poor established geography, making it occasionally unclear who is doing what to whom (mind you I'm typing this on a site that overwhelmingly enjoyed Transformers, so perhaps everyone loves this style). Campbell was (is) a better director than Forster.

    Bonds journey from 'cold revenge driven killer' to just 'cold killer' is a complete non-starter. Suprisingly little in the way of any emotion from Bond given the events of the previous film.

    Feels to much like a bridge to the next Bond film rather than a self contained work.

    Plus if you've not seen Casino Royale it won't make much sense.
     
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    I completely agree. I just saw QoS today and was rather unimpressed with it (I didn't particularly enjoy Casino Royale either). I miss Moneypenny and Q and all those outrageous gadgets. Daniel Craig's Bond is a hardened professional, but also completely without mirth or charm. What happened to his well-known catchphrases? Instead of "Vodka martini, shaken not stirred", we get "I don't know; what am I drinking?" The sets and locations were awful. While trying to move away from the fantastic, exotic scenes from previous films, the director has chosen run-down towns and shots of delapidated buildings to appease viewers. It's like the film is trying to create the impression that it's running on a shoestring budget. (I was astounded to find out that it amounted to $230 million for a 106 minute movie. Where the hell did all that money go?) The plot was often incomprehensible and sometimes it felt like it was just one chase after another. I particularly disliked the escape from La Tosca, where the collage of bullets and opera music didn't suit the Bond feel.

    In surmise, while rooting QoS in a cold, hard reality, Agent 007 has lost much of the magic of his former escapades. I can only hope that the next film brings back some of the series' trademarks, because it's just not Bond otherwise.

    *goes off to watch Tomorrow Never Dies*
     
  7. Coolhand

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    Saw the movie. Enjoyed it one the whole, prefer the new "realistic, brutal" Bond to the campy, over the top one of old, but I am going to have to invent a time machine and send a terminator back through time to kill the mother of whoever it was that invented the idea of camera shake during action scenes...
     
  8. LigerPrime

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    Caught the movie today. It was an enjoyable flick but yeah, it doesn't feel like the Bond of old and yeah, I hate the shakey camera effects!
     
  9. Takara_destron

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    Saw it yesterday, while I did enjoy it I have to agree that it isnt the Bond of old and that is sorely missed.
     
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    I saw it again and it's still amazing. I loves the bit when he stabs the guy in the neck with broken glass :D 
     
  11. RabidYak

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    Just got back from the the moving picture emporium and i'm seriously not impressed, piss poor effort after such an awesome jump start.

    Still, no worse then Brosnan's post-Goldeneye shitfests or anything with Roger Moore.
     
  12. McBradders

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    What's up with it in particular?

    Someone said it was "just an action movie with a guy named James Bond in it", were they right?
     
  13. RabidYak

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    The plot is paper thin, the characters arn't interesting and the action sequences have hideous editing.

    There isn't much in the way of traditional Bond elements, but I don't really care either way as long as the film is good. Which it isn't.
     
  14. McBradders

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    I thought it was actually ok. It was very much "just an action movie", but your critcisms are totally valid. Kinda soulless, and really lacked any kind of coherent "Here's how it's connected to the first one" other than "REMEMBER VESPA?! DO YOU?! HAHAH SHE WAS IN THE LAST MOVIE".
     
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    Just got back from the midnight showing and I got admit, it wasn't as good as Casino Royale. I was expecting more out of the story line and there were times where I wasn't understanding what was going on. After a while, I managed to piece it all together

    I will say that I did enjoy some of the action scenes and I had a whoa moment when I saw how they killed Strawberry Fields. Is it just me or did anyone notice how the way Fields was found dead similar to how one of the girls was found dead in Goldfinger? I love how it kinda played homage to Goldfinger, except she was covered with oil instead of gold paint.
     
  16. Foster

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    Well, I've got my expectations nice and low, just watched Die Another Day on cable. Let's do this!
     
  17. Mixmaster

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    How ridiculous is the product placement in this one? It was pretty bad in Casino Royale with everybody having a Sony Ericsson phone.
     
  18. pinoy78

    pinoy78 Shoji Kawamori having FUN

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    The Bond Supremacy IV?
     
  19. Omega Supreme V

    Omega Supreme V The token Asian one

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    I liked it, though a strong reason that I find it so good is that I watched it after Zack & Miri...that one was disturbing ;-/...funny, but so disturbing in some parts..
     
  20. gfan1984

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    Yeah I noticed that too! If you think about it, Oil is the new gold now, so it makes sense, but that had to have been a horrible death there. Ouch!