´til all are one

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  1. simonatmac

    simonatmac The stop motion maker

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    ´til all are one.
    A well-known phrase.


    There is a reason why HASBRO used it [​IMG]
    I´d love to hear your thoughts.
     
  2. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    :sly:  :wtf:  I'm lost here.
     
  3. Joe Moore

    Joe Moore Is Not Jim... Administrator

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    Hasbro didn't use it. The writers of Transformers The Movie did. The reason? they needed words to fit there. There is no deeper meaning.
     
  4. llamatron

    llamatron Shut up, Nigel. TFW2005 Supporter

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    It was a secret warning about the NEW WORLD ORDER.

    Or an attempt to build on the concept of robbits joining THE MATRIX after they die.
     
  5. ErbFan28

    ErbFan28 Go Dennis Erb Jr. #28!!!

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    That's what I always thought it was. Even in BW when Rhinox goes into the matrix to find Primal, he say's he was where all are one when he returns.
     
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    I never understood what it ment Till All Are One!
     
  7. tikgnat

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    Um, I always assumed it referred to a future time when there was no more civil war?
     
  8. Voiceroy

    Voiceroy Trans-fo-mahs!

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    In Transformers mythology, there's a prophecy that some day some thing would happen and all Transformers would be sucked together to form a giant combiner as a single entity.

    Or I could just be speaking out of my butt.
     
  9. Backscatter

    Backscatter Autobot Brainmaster TFW2005 Supporter

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    That sort of happened, at least for the Autobots at the end of Energon/Superlink. Though it didn't last long, all you got was a really big Optimus Prime.
     
  10. FatalT 71

    FatalT 71 Mr. JazzHunter

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    Sort of like what Joe did to Peter's restaurant in Family Guy? :D 
     
  11. Kaymac

    Kaymac I'M REALLY FEELIN' IT!

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    The original script for the movie referenced "Life Sparks", which were the life force of all Transformers. The "sparks" we know of now were created completely without prompting from that and from just weird-ass coincidence. Also in the original script, there was a scene where all the life sparks that were not sealed away to contain them would return to a single point, where all were one. When that part of the plot was removed, the line stayed anyway, and Optimus says it as he dies.
     
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    It's a good line for the Autobots to use. Their war cry, a call to arms, their tag.

    While there is the whole idea of all sparks coming together in the Matrix, I'd rather think of it as a time with no war or struggle, where there are no Autobots or Decepticons, just Cybertronians, when all are one.
     
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    The phrase refers to a hopeful future era, one of peace and unity with no more warring factions.
     
  14. Auto Morph

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    (I think) It's something to do with Transformer sparks rejoining the Matrix (not the Autobot leadership one). A little of this is explained in Beast Machines IIRC.
     
  15. DC2k5

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    Actually, it is 'till all are won.'.
    Meaning until the Autobots win all the wars and drive the Decepticons off into the sun . . Or something. ;P

    (Though seriously I always took it as meaning until the factions were combined in peace. No more civil wars on Cybertron).
     
  16. Ruination04

    Ruination04 8 Years Old Since 1984!

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    To teach us 80s kids to grow up and put our differences aside and be one.
     
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    so, we dont know for sure...
     
  18. Thyme

    Thyme Disciple of Yun-Harla

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    Uhm ... brainwash all of us to buy all their Transformer products ... so we can destroy the Evil Power - oooh?!
     
  19. Rexidus

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    I'm going to see it as a religious statement referring to the time when all sparks return to the Allspark.

    Adding a religion to the Transformers makes them seem like they actually have a culture and don't exist purely to sell toys and fight.
     
  20. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

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    'til all are one also technically nearly happened at the end of Beast Machines. All nearly were one with a single being...

    ... too bad it was Megatron.
     

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