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Old 05-22-2012, 03:42 PM   #11
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I'm still really enjoying this discussion, as I think a lot of good is coming out of it. Keep sharing those tips, gang

Also, I want to say that I've not personally done any work with Prime figures yet, so I am taking your words that customizing them may be different than working with other figures. I have noticed some changed in plastic (also attributing to the main topic of this thread), so I figured that there may be truth to it. At any rate, the discussion here is really good
I've started working with a few (specifically PRID guys), and yeah, they definitely feel a bit different, but I haven't encountered any issues using standard techniques on them yet. NEST S may well have bumped up against some of the limitations I haven't hit yet, anything's possible.

I love these kinds of threads though, it really highlights how many ways there are to do things, and that there's no one "right" way.

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Allow me sir, to say thank you. Your advice is exactly what I needed. I really do care about this project in particular, and customizing in general. It began with this desire for a Mirage figure, but I'd like to one day be able to take on commissions for other fans.

Thank you again for your help.
You are very welcome. Keep working at it and you'll get there, you clearly have the drive! Hopefully you'll start seeing success soon!

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Old 05-22-2012, 04:30 PM   #12
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The only parts I've had to take off the ones I've done so far were the heads/faces of Arcee, Knockout, and Megatron. I brush-paint mine so that's why naturally. Alcohol is fine to wipe them down with but I wouldn't ever soak a figure in one long regardless of the line. If you are going to strip paint off get a vibrating/sonic toothbrush and 91% alcohol, three or four minutes tops and it's gone. That tip I found out on my own.

I've used Model Master and Citadel acrylics with a Future topcoat on mine and had no problems so far with chipping but I don't "play" with customs other than transforming them.

Arcee I simply cleaned and laid down MM True Blue Pearl, custom mix metallic pink details, black where needed, and the silver where needed also. No priming at all and it's paint is solid. Letting them fully dry/cure before handling is the best thing one could do.

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I would NOT recommend ANY acrylics in any form other than detail painting. You will be able to scratch them right off since they are water/alcohol based and NOT solvent based. Lacquers are the way to go on MOST if not all transformers as it actually chemically bonds to the plastic/adhesion promoter.
It varies brand to brand. Get some Model Masters Gunmetal or Flat Black, lay it down as a basecoat for an arm or leg or whatever really. I've taken car keys to it the next day or so after it's good and dry/cured and BARELY scratched it. Car keys. Their Gunmetal is especially durable for some reason. Citadel/Games Workshop, oh absolutely not. It is probably the least durable paint I've found and if it's thinned it will rub off just by touch unless clear-coated. I like lacquers too but really don't have a use for them since I brush. You just can't brush them and get a good finish (sure you know this already Z) but when I have for details they have came off pretty easily unless coated.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:39 PM   #13
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This is really helpful.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:47 PM   #14
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Thumbs up for a highly useful info thread! Great topic!
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:02 PM   #15
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I'm also a relative newb to the world of painting and I realize that my vocabulary is limited, and worse: I've got just enough knowledge to be dangerous to myself. As such, I do have a few questions about this incredibly useful list:

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[*]Base-Color
  1. Get yourself some Krylon Fusion (I think there's now also Rustoleum "Universal" which has a similar formula). It's a rattle-rattle shake-shake can, and hey get poo-poo'ed a lot, but the stuff works, and it works well. Remember, we're keeping this simple for your first few projects.
  2. Follow the directions on the can, and apply thin layers to each part until you have a nice even coat on all visible surfaces.
  3. Allow the paint to cure for the time specified on the can.
So the base coat is meant to be a neutral color? Or is it best to use a variant of the intended final color? Or the final color itself?


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[*]Detailing and Finishing
  1. Detail paint your figure with a brush, air-brush, or a mask-and-spray technique. Depending on the look you want to go for you can dry-brush to shade and highlight the textures of the paint, or you can just judiciously paint the detail areas to keep that "new car look" as clean as possible (Drybrushing is a LOT easier to get a good result, and may be where you want to start until you're more comfortable with painting.)
So for example, you'd drybrush blue highlights onto a neutral base? Or are you talking about metallic drybrushing onto a colored base for detailing? I see the term drybrush thrown around often but often with apparently different meanings.

Any insight is welcome as I fight the war on uneven paint apps.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:21 PM   #16
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I paint differently than some here, but I tend to prefer base coats of the same hue. For example, I'll use a Kyrlon Fusion blue as a base coat for a blue custom and use a type of blue for a top coat (usually brushed on + Future).
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I'm with Quaddy' on this one, I try to base coat with a color as close to the final as possible. Sometimes if you're trying to paint a light color over a dark color (eg yellow paint on black plastic) then you'll want to put down a few coats of a neutral color that has decent opacity (I like light gray), as light colors don't have the same ability to "cover over" that darker hues do.

As for drybrushing, the technique refers to any time you're using your brush with a very minimal paint load (I.e. its all but dry), what you DO with it is up to you, there are a million variations. But in general you use it to accomplish any effect where you want to transfer the paint to the raised-areas of a part while leaving the "valleys" (relatively) untouched.

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Old 06-26-2012, 10:51 AM   #18
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Update. I bought and tried a little rustoleum today (since Krylon doesn't make a blue shade that I found). It goes on very easy and seriously covers everything. Great look. But it has a kind of thick, puffy feeling to it. Now the can says it takes 5-7 days to cure fully, but will that feeling go away?

Oh, and that helps a lot. Especially now that I see a solid blue block on my sample arm. I can see where it wouldn't take much of anything to add some detail with a brush.
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Never used Rustoleum. What's it like?
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #20
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EDIT: I don't have much of a frame of reference since it's my first spray paint, but compared to the finish model masters acrylic gives, it's kind of sticky. Even coverage with very little run or blobbing. The stickiness may fade with time, I suppose. Won't know for certain until Saturday. In all, I feel kind of confident thinking of using this for an upcoming project. Now I need to go read up on masking.
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