Inferno/Grapple: Masterpiece Upgrades

SMOG · 05-27-2012, 05:37 PM

Here's a question...

Are you planning on finding a way to keep his water cannon integrated into his design, or will it be totally replaced? It just occurred to me that it might be cool to keep connection points for it (would it be able to rest next to the ladder, and therefore stay attached to the arm? Should it be possible to mount it on his neck-guard so it becomes a shoulder cannon (similar to the little chrome one on G1 Inferno)?

zmog

Wheel_Jack · 05-27-2012, 08:51 PM

Thanks again for the continued feedback, support and kind words guys.
Just jumping in to respond to a few comments and small update.
I still don't have grasp of the cost since I'm still designing the parts.

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Originally Posted by Big Dawg

This is fantastic. do you think you could hollow out his lower legs and create some kind of telescoping mechanism so the upper legs could slide into the lower legs and you wouldn't have to extend the truck's length? Might be a lot of work as it may cause you to have to rework the lower legs (and possibly add a waist swivel so the wheels face the outside) but with how much you've put into this already I can't imagine you are scared of it lol.

Thanks and that's a great idea and where this a straight up kitbash I might have considered it. My goal is to not modify the existing parts at all.

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Originally Posted by SMOG

Looking great, man! The proportions are working really well! And KNEE GUARDS!!

As has been mentioned already, does the crotch plate not interfere somewhat with the forward leg movement? I mean, supposing you wanted him to sit down on something (which admittedly is not a common pose for TF's.

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Just out of curiosity, I'm sure you're planning on attaching the ladder to the back of his head, oldschool style... but have you considered making it compatible with the plug on his arm, so he can mount it on his arm as an optional configuration? I'm also still keen on the idea of a waist swivel, though I can see how it would be more work and potentially make the hip assembly more fragile. The ankles still tilt the other way a bit, though not as much as the official configuration it's true.

zmog

I had a system in place that lowered the ball joint to allow for full range of motion but I decided the legs were too heavy to implement it. I'm looking forward to using it in smaller models though. The ladder will stay on the back of his head. it's gonna be too long I think for his arm but we'll see when I cross that bridge. I've decided that the waste won't turn at this point cuz the ladder armature will come out of the back of it, it'll mean the hood and ladder will have to turn with the waste. that's some engineering I'm not quite ready for.

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Originally Posted by OptimusTimelord

Well I'd definitely be interested in a G1 cab, even if not many others are! Either way, this will be amazing. Great work, can't believe the added height in bot mode. And I love the extended length in truck mode.

Thanks man, I think I will make design a front end for those of us who really really want one but I won't include it in the kit due to cost. if there's enough demand for it, I'll include it.

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Originally Posted by deaculpa

looks 1000 times better, but i think the thighs are a tad too long, i'd take a smidge off the upper thigh area. the photo of the crotch area alone seems to imply there a ball joint in the hip, but i dont see one?
again, this is awesome and i would buy as is. mark me down.

Their was a ball joint in the hip with an arm that rotated the ball down to clear for forward motion. the leg's too heavy for it so i changed it. I'll rethink the thigh length as I'm working on it. thanks for the input.

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Originally Posted by grumpoldman

Just curious: How long until the parts will be ready for sale?

My guess it's gonna be at least a month or so. Maybe two.

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Originally Posted by SMOG

Here's a question...

Are you planning on finding a way to keep his water cannon integrated into his design, or will it be totally replaced? It just occurred to me that it might be cool to keep connection points for it (would it be able to rest next to the ladder, and therefore stay attached to the arm? Should it be possible to mount it on his neck-guard so it becomes a shoulder cannon (similar to the little chrome one on G1 Inferno)?

zmog

I think I'm gonna find a place for the water canon. it won't be on his arm though. it'll interfere with ladder. probably end up clipping to the ladder somewhere.

So I've completely rebuilt the leg mechanics now to ratchet forward/backward and lateral movement. I think this will hold better than the ball joint system I had in mind.
I figured out how to fill in the gaps in alt mode and how the ladder/hood and their armature will attach. More to come.
thanks again guys.

P.S. The front of the waist will function like MP starscream's waist flaps.

Optimus0085 · 05-27-2012, 08:54 PM

This is truly outstanding!

beigoma · 05-27-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by deaculpa

looks 1000 times better, but i think the thighs are a tad too long, i'd take a smidge off the upper thigh area. the photo of the crotch area alone seems to imply there a ball joint in the hip, but i dont see one?
again, this is awesome and i would buy as is. mark me down.

The thighs look a little long to me too but just by a few millimeters. Sometimes things look a lot different between pictures and real life though.

Man, this kit is gonna be incredible. Thread bookmarked.

Ejack37 · 06-18-2012, 09:37 AM

Hey Wheel_Jack, any updates on this upgrade? Like when can I get one?

Buzby74 · 06-18-2012, 05:07 PM

this is awsome egineering. i wish i could do something like this
way out of my league

G60Force · 06-18-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knockoff

if i owned an inferno, i'd get one. looks ill. and i mean no disrespect when is say this, but he does remind of a leggy underwear model, haha.

masterful work though.

U did "owned" an Inferno, I'm currently own ur ex-Inferno

Wheel_Jack · 06-18-2012, 11:04 PM

hey guys, no updates just yet. I'm trying to wrap up all of swerves upgrade parts before I get back to this. I've been doing a lot of little doodles that I'm looking forward to transferring into tangible prints. Shouldn't be too much longer.
thanks.

shapercreator14 · 06-18-2012, 11:11 PM

Timesynch · 07-05-2012, 09:04 AM

Great stuff! Bot mode is shaping up great, can't wait to see what you do with the alt mode!

05-27-2012, 05:37 PM	#101
SMOG zombiecon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,844 Location: Robot Narnia, Quebec Collection Count: they have their own room...	Here's a question... Are you planning on finding a way to keep his water cannon integrated into his design, or will it be totally replaced? It just occurred to me that it might be cool to keep connection points for it (would it be able to rest next to the ladder, and therefore stay attached to the arm? Should it be possible to mount it on his neck-guard so it becomes a shoulder cannon (similar to the little chrome one on G1 Inferno)? zmog image size: 500px x 275px, 18.78kb... always has been "Why is bad taste ubiquitous?" - Erik Spiekermann

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Ejack37 Robot in Disguise Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 633	Hey Wheel_Jack, any updates on this upgrade? Like when can I get one? eJack37's Forum Feedback My BST Thread

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Buzby74 Quintesson Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 611	this is awsome egineering. i wish i could do something like this way out of my league God can make something out of nothing, we can only utilise what we have.....

06-18-2012, 11:04 PM	#108
Wheel_Jack pitying fools Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 879 Location: Chicago, Illinois Collection Count: ONE, ah ah ah. Two, ah ah ah. Three, ah ah ah. Not now my pets.	hey guys, no updates just yet. I'm trying to wrap up all of swerves upgrade parts before I get back to this. I've been doing a lot of little doodles that I'm looking forward to transferring into tangible prints. Shouldn't be too much longer. thanks. FACEBOOK . SHAPEWAYS . DEVIANTART . FLICKR

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Optimus0085 Decepticon Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 163	This is truly outstanding!

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Timesynch Is a time wasting machine Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6,153 Location: San Antonio, TX Collection Count: Too many! News Credits: 1	Great stuff! Bot mode is shaping up great, can't wait to see what you do with the alt mode! For President 2016: Punishment and enslavement we can believe in.