Regarding the plausibility of the Constructicon set (since it's not gonna to be named Devastator) featuring individual robots that transform on their own... I'm not sure where I read this, but I could swear I read that once of the pieces is just a drone and has no "robot" mode.

Maybe that will allow for more (re: bigger size classes) to be included under the $100 price point.

 

As long as there are no detachable fists, feet, or head, I'm fine with some drones. Bonecrusher's name was taken anyway, and he hates you for it.

 

Actually, yes, we have received information on Arcee. Roberto Orci was asked point blank if they were going to reuse the original design intended to be used in the first movie and he responded that they were using an all new design.

And, seriously, where in the world do yo even remotely get off referring to HasTak being lazy? With all the excellent items we've already seen coming for RotF to doubt them at this point doesn't even make any sense.

 

Well like I said we have not seen any pictures of her in robot form and who knows how much info is misinformation? Until I see official pictures I'm going to think that she is very similar to her original concept. Who is to say that when all three bikes combine they don't look like her original concept? They very well could just reuse her original toy mold and retool/repaint it. We will see. I really hope they don't. A three Bike combiner toy would be sweet but I just don't think it's in the cards. The reason I'm leaning this way and the reason why I made the lazy comment is because Bumblebee, a major returning character, has his two major toys from the previous movie line just retooled and repackaged for this new movie line. If they did it for him they could very well do it for her. I wasn't calling the company lazy as in they have a rep for being lazy. I was using the term to describe some of their recent decisions on certain things. I agree that Hasbro has come up with some nice new items but they sometimes seem to cut corners in other areas......not to mention all the repaints and extra Transformers not even in the movie released just to make an extra buck.

 

At $100 I have to assume it makes a mean sandwich and gives halfway decent blowjobs.

 

lmao!!!!:d

 

oh, yea, true

 

it's not???

 

The whole "only one bot has it's own bot-mode, while the others only have alt and limb-modes" thing was proved false, along with the other rumors that came from that particular source.

 

If its really Devastator, that one set i'll definitely be getting, regardless of price. I only hope it looks great, that'll be a great bonus.

Have set aside around $1000, looking to buy every single movie character to satisfy the completist in me.

 

I just want knock out and side swipe

 

No, that was something else. What we know as of yet is that there's going to be a "Devastator" toy (no idea what they'll do about the name) that is comprised of seven constructions vehicles, six of which will also have their own robot modes and one of which (a truss crane, IIRC) will have no robot mode, only a vehicle mode, combined mode, and possibly some form of weapon mode.

 

Somehow that sounded to me like a contradiction. As in Hasbro's lazy for cutting corners on some products but they also make toys not in the movie for the extra buck, which you have to agree isn't lazy at all.

I think you should see it from the "extra buck" perspective.

1) Making extra characters for the extra buck? Check.
2) Reusing existing molds for the extra buck? Check.

If you think about it, the deluxe Concept Camaro Bumblebee was one of the best toys from the first movie, so perhaps Hasbro consciously (sp?) decided that there was no way to have a better Bumblebee in that scale with their current tech.

Ultimate Bumblebee is a whole different game: it's a mold that isn't easily repaintable (some people say it was a poor seller. Now imagine trying to sell it as Cliffjumper!), and as we know, Hasbro reuses most of their molds - for the extra buck.  

So IMO it makes sense to rerelease UBB this time around ... what better repaint for UBB than another UBB with some different pieces?

-airfox

 

When did we hear that? I honestly don't remember ever hearing about that. Last I knew we really didn't know anything about them other than their alt-modes, the fact there are seven of them, and the fact that they'll combine into a gestalt. I do remember hearing about a combiner that'll have a construction themed alt-mode (said to be a "shovel"), but it was never stated to have any connection to the Constructicons, and the way it sounded it was a normal triple changer in that it would have a bot-mode and two alt-modes of some kind.

 

A good guess based upon the (admittedly) scant information at hand. Besides, the sole justification you and others in this thread have offered is "it seems too hard to do to me, so they'll probably not bother."

Three bikes combining into a design that came from one bike. It's fairly unlikely given movie production folk would most likely not reuse discarded concept art that has been publicly revealed and used for merchandising. Typically productions return to previously unused concepts if they have not been used elsewhere.

It's entirely possible that Hasbro thinks the previous modern Camaro Bumblebee can't be improved (it is one of the most impressive Deluxe class Transformers ever made, and frankly, in the class of car-robot type Transformers, has yet to be bettered by any other Movie or Universe car). And Ultimate Bumblebee, they invested a lot into it, and there's not much opportunity to reuse it, so there you go.

That is contradictory. How is making new molds related to cutting corners and being a generally a bad thing?

Repaints are a fact of life considering the investment and manhours put into every mold.

 

My thoughts are similar to the earlier posters in that i'd guess a Mega Power Bot is like a Cyber Stomper, and the $99.99 item is that giant Devastator Boxed set we heard so much about some months ago.

I do hope one of the retailers takes some repacks of the Real Gear Robots though the last few of them were hard to get and a re-release of the last few as twinpacks would be great.

I'm actually disapointed that Hasbro did not make something equivellent to an Ultra something that retails for $24.99 or $28.99 or $32.99 or something like that - a little smaller than a leader and ideally like a Voyager toy a toy with lots of detail but no sound effects.

I think a scale like that would be idea for Ironhide, Ratchet, The Fallen, Starscream characters who might miss out on the leader class - as Hasbro tend to not make to many leaders.

I wish they'd dump that pointless Ultimate Bumblebee re-issue/remake and sell another Leader though.

Perhaps we can get 4 leaders if they don't make any Animated leader toys for 2009 ?

We know about Optimus, but obviously another one is going to be either Jetfire or the Fallen (unless Jetfire is a Supreme - but I'm doubtful of that). but if those are hogging the leader slot where the love for the Leaderclass Starscream so many want.

I'd be happy with an Ultra Starscream, but I think that is improbably due to Hasbro's difficulty in selling Ultras - they'd have been more likely to sell Ultra's if they packed them in robot mode and had held them back for the Movie line rather that doing them in Universe - I'd say Powerglide is as much responsble for killing the Ultra Class as the poor electronics, poor price for size, and poor packing is.

I bet they could be bigger if they'd ditched the Electronics some of the coolest toys made years ago were Ultra - things like Armada Tidal Wave or Cybertron Scourge for example.

I just think sometimes Voyager scale is to small.

 

Wouldn't that be... the Constructicons?

 

Cybertron Scourge was loaded with electronics and had bad articulation for his size class.

 

It's not contradictory. I gave them credit where credit was due but called them out on some of their other decisions like repainting or just changing the head on something. Lets forget Ultimate Bumblebee. There have been other examples of this. Again...the laziness comment is in reference to some "lazy" things they have done. Isolated cases.

 

This came from me saying that Hasbro might take the lazy way out and just repaint Arcee from the original movie line rather then invest in some kind of three bike combo toy. I'll give a real world example. A mother spends all day making a beautiful Thanksgiving turkey. She brines it. Then stuffs it with aromatics then spends hours basting and re seasoning. Then she skimps on the gravy to save time or whatever. She buys store bought gravy which sucks compared to homemade. She went all out on the turkey and then took the lazy way out on the gravy. Is this contradictory? No. It doesn't take away from what she did good. She still made a great turkey. It just sucks that she didn't take the time to make an equally good gravy.

Only time will tell if they went and made a brand new three bike combiner toy for Arcee or even if they made a new single bike mold for her. All I'm saying is that if they just repaint her original movie line mold I won't be surprised.