Well, thanks to Tony we now know the breakup of every Lost Bot in every pack. (They're fixed, as they have to be part of the included instructions in each pack.) Bottom line: If you're committing to getting everything else, you will get every Lost Bot in the process to the point where you'll have multiples of most of them. Every Lost Bot except Dimlit and Frostferatu are in 3 different packs spread across the 5-pack and 8-pack assortments, and if you get a case of EITHER assortment you will end up with all the Lost Bots except the aforementioned two (or only Frostferatu if you get a case of the 5-packs), and those 2 are both in the single-pack case.

As for re-packs... I'm not so sure. From the Botbots website we know there are 61 in the first series, which obviously has no repacks. There are 60 in Series 2, and 74 (it would seem, due to a telling website "typo") in Series 3. If you add those numbers up that leads to 195, which fits the "190+" number Hasbro has given us for 2019. There's definitely going to be a number of redecos, but as far as straight re-uses, given the checklist if a Series 1 Botbot was in, say, Series 2 I think they'd put it in the checklist and in the "total" for that Series. Which by itself means nothing, BUT if Hasbro says we're getting 190+ total Botbots in 2019, that only leaves room for roughly 5 Botbots to be used in multiple series.

Of course Hasbro can define these things however deceptively they want, and perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part, but from those facts, it seems like there will be no repacks between series, only redecos.

There already is a thread: Botbots barter/trade/for sale

However, it's not particularly active yet since most people only have a smattering of 5-packs. Ebay has several for sale for VERY reasonable prices, but most of them are "commons", though as of now even the occasional "rare" goes for the same price as a common as it doesn't seem like most people are paying attention to/know the rarity of certain Botbots yet.

That said, keep in mind that the star rating of a Botbot is only loosely tied to its ACTUAL rarity. I did the counting, and see my list here for what the Series 1 Botbots should ACTUALLY be rated as the star system was used as gospel: BotBots Appreciation Thread

 

Thanks for helping me get up to speed, BB--I usually stick only to bottom-feeding when new Tiny Turbos come out and selected Studio Series (mostly plane altmodes). Tried to do Full Line in G1 as a kid, but that was a bridge too far, and now TF has to compete for funding with both rebuilding my Jurassic Park collection, and building high-quality competition rifles and pistols for myself and the girlfriend. (Trust me, a competition-grade AR is *not* like a cheap crappy $500 Sporting Goods Store Special, and even that's not as expensive as a hand-fitted competition pistol!)

 

How do these feel quality wise? Are they on par with the Takara sushi bots?

 

I don't have the Sushi-bots, but I think they're of pretty good quality. Not amazing, but pretty good. A bit better than Tiny Turbo Changers. Sometimes if you have to push down a head it can stick a little the first time and you have to use a little more force than you're comfortable with, but after the first time it's "freed up".

 

Never seen the sushi-bots until they were mentioned.

Curious obects - I wonder if they are expensive ?

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I still think buying a case of singles makes a degree of sense but The other strategy might by concentrating on the 5 & 8 packs to get the lost bots and then working backwards to get any others you need.

I'm sure there is a optimum way to do it depending on if you just want minimal duplicates of if you want all of them including the Lost bots.

I don't especially object to having 2 of each - but more than that gets a bit silly.

 

Part of why I had originally been thinking to start with the 8-packs or the ones with only-in-that-pack bots was minimizing cost--if we assume US street prices at $3.50-4.00 single, $10 5-pack and $15 8-pack, the packs break down to around $2/figure.

 

The Stars mean nothing with Rarity

Well the Blind Packs come 1 per case, so they are the rarest.

I'm spending way too much time on this filler line, Where are the Siege Figures?
Green = 1 Figure, Yellow = 2 Figures, Red = 3 Figures, and Purple = 4 Figures
Correct me if I'm wrong
(Image updated in a post below)

 

Your spreadsheet doesn't take into account the single-packs, so the corn dog, flashlight, french fries, venus flytrap, and boxing glove aren't only in those packs. See the link in my prior post for a breakdown of how many are packed in total when taking into account all 1-, 5-, and 8-packs.

The blind pack "Lost Bots" are always the same in a pack; in fact for most of them there's 3 each total across all packs, so blind packs aren't the rarest. You'll have multiple Lost Bots of everything except Frostferatu and possibly Dimlit by the time you're done.

 

Okay Here's a Correction
Green = 1 Figure, Yellow = 2 Figures, Red = 3 Figures, and Purple = 4 Figures
Correct me if I'm wrong



I still do not know what the stars mean? Is it a Power Rating?

 

The stars are supposed to indicate rarity, but they actually don't, so... yeah, they don't really mean much.

 

So from what I can see, it\'s going to be a HUGE pain to get a complete set.   
Looks like TONS of dupilcates in the process too.  I can\'t believe they didn\'t make each of the \"boxed\" cardback sets unique at the very least.   

 

Yeah, as much as I love these things, I hate the way they're being distributed. That said, at least there's now apparently codes written on the OUTSIDE of the packaging for the single-packs, on the backside:


And there's exactly one of every possible pack in each assortment box, so even the rarest ones are in at least one assortment. And the Lost Bots are always the same in a particular pack. So at least it's not totally random with no way to tell what you're getting-- it's just going to cost you more than they should, and you'll have to find someone to sell/give your doubles/triples to. Could be worse; at least there's no "chase" figures or any of that crud.

 

Got a link to the "ID" thread or post? I REALLY loathe having to get multiples of some things just to get ONE of them all.  

 

I did in my previous post, dude. Click on the thumbnail.

 

Hey, Tony, dunno what kinda contacts you have at Hasbro, but if you get a chance would you consider passing along a suggestion that the box they shipped the sample sets in could be adapted to make a great collector/display case for these little guys?

 

Is it possible to get the list formated in a way that lists the alt mode or name (or both) and then has next to it the pack in.

What I'm trying to figure out is.

Is it possible to buy all of the 8 pack or all of the 5 pack and get the few strays from the singles.
Or does it have to be a specific mix of 5 & 8 packs and singles.

What I am getting at here is if I order a fixed case of 5 or 8 packs - can I then get the few strays by just buying 1 or 2 of which ever I don't get as a wholesale case ?

So something like this.

(completely made up example)

Buy a case of 5 packs : get most releases - missing a few so I have to get 3 single bubbles and one 8 pack

Or I buy a case of 8 packs and get most of the releases but I have to get 2 Bubbles and 2 5 packs ?


That is the sort of thing I'm trying to figure out - I don't really want to order a whole case of singles if I'm only going to be missing a couple from the singles.

Can anyone help me figure this out - ta.

 

Max, gimme an hour or two and I'll have a Google Spreadsheet up. Already built in Excel for my own work, but it's chow-time.

 

@Max Tower Here ya go! Red is Singles Only, Blue is Multipacks Only.
Botbots By Package

 

Confusing as Heck, But we all know Hasbro intended it that way, Like all collectable Blind Bags, they prey on the completionist.

And then there's Wave 2 and 3, we don't know if they will contain New Molds, Repaints or a Mix of Both.

 

Can somebody tell me the rarity of each figure?