I don't know... I'm picky when it comes to leader class movie figures. I own 3: the infinitely celebrated ROTF mold (Jetwing Prime) to represent the first three movies, Calibur Prime as clearly the best (IMO) representation of AoE and TLK, and TLK Megatron. I rather stick to SS scale, which makes my Voyager Evasion and Takara's Rusty version just perfect.

 

This guy found Hasbro's official excuse they'll use.

 

This figure is not being released in North america?

 

It's not an "excuse". It doesn't scale with the rest of the figures. How does this not make sense to you?

 

Now that Wei Jiang is upsizing the Studio Series Prime, that might be the one to get.

 

Neither does Soundwave.
This isn't about Studio Series anyway. This about the Bumblebee line, which currently has several Titans Returns cassetticons and the aforementioned Soundwave.
There is no reason to say Hasbro can't release this Prime under the same line.

Hell, they could make it another Target exclusive.

 

And who's to say they won't? This figure very well might get released. I wasn't the one who came into this thread saying Hasbro would "never release it."

 

Yeah, now I know that I'm going to buying this. So where can I preorder this?

 

Yeah... gonna have to wait for the Bee movie on this one.
If OP doesn't show up looking exactly like this in the film, then it's a pass.
I'm especially bummed that it's 90% just an upsized figure, at the very least, you think
they could have added in some little gimmicks/additional details here and there.
I can see he has hinged fingers now, but maybe like hinged toes, slightly more movie-accurate
thicker forearms, separate parts for his faux chest mini windows etc etc.

 

Damn, he's beautiful.

I'd like to get one of these, because I bet he'd look awesome with movie VW Bee.

 

Because THIS version isn't the original film version, it's a G1 version of it. Why would you NOT expect a heavily retooled, G1 version of a film version (itself based more so in the G1 version) to be more G1? Especially as a (KO) version (which is probably well-known to the official designers) brought out a version, similar to the official OS version, and it had TWO smokestacks?

It's not exactly rocket science.

 

Please check the previous pages, where you'll find an Amazon Japan listing.

 

I mean, other than Amazon Jp, because they won’t ship to North America, still.

 

Amazon rolls back restrictions all the time. They now even ship internationally for 3rd party sellers using Amazon fulfillment. They didn't do that as recent as last month, even.

And sometimes a company will tell Amazon they're not allowed to sell it to us because another company is releasing the same product in the US and they can't step on toes. Ever see how BBTS says this or that item can't ship outside the US? Company restrictions because others are handling it in other sections of the world.

There's literally no guarantee that we'll see this figure in the States, but seeing this makes me think there's a slight chance. It's not like Hasbro hasn't obtained Takara Tomy only items for exclusives, before.

I wouldn't panic, just yet.

 

You mean for Bumblebee?

Because apparently according to some people that got a sneak peek of the film, this isn't even what Optimus looks like.

And G1? Bumblebee isn't G1. It's got some nods here and there but again, it's not meant to be G1.

The two stacks that WJ did is artistic license. Same withthew one stack here.

All this "logic" of your post except there is not a chance any of it was intentional though, right?

This is again, a chance for Takara to popularize on the success of WJ Commander. It's not actually Orim they're using for Bumblebee, it's only an improved version of what people have been wanting all along.

It's not rocket science.

 

No.

This is a G1-coloured toy, based upon a toy that, according to the wiki, was itself based more on the original G1 design than then actual film version.

Thus, it's not unreasonable to expect more G1-features.

I honestly don't know how to explain it any more clearly to you, at this point.

 

Evasion Prime is a G1 colored toy!

What the fuck are you even talking about? If the Commander does a better job at "being G1" then just get that

FFS. Such an idiotic argument.

Read your own post. MORE G1. NOT 100% G1.

It's not anything excepe an oversized and modded Evasion Prime. From AoE. It's not meant to be 1:1 with G1.

And you need to explain things to me? Try reading your own post first.

 

Judging by your rude, expletive-fueled response, you seem beyond any rational explanation.

 

Says the guy that used "rocket science" in a condescending manner, all the while not understanding what he's saying.

It's just that you're not getting it. This isn't "G1" Optimus Prime. Being "based on" G1 doesn't mean it's a direct copy.

I don't know how I can stress this point enough to you.

The original model of this truck had one stack. You keep saying that this is some sort of "G1" model but it's not. It's just a bigger version of the Evasion Prime. There is nothing special about it except that it's bigger, and it took some design cues from WJ. This is just an attempt to capitalize on Commander's success. And it worked, at least for me.

I don't know what else to say here. Except that this isn't a 1:1 copy of G1 Optimus Prime.

"Expecting" something when the design is different in the first place isn't rational when having one smokestack is purely the design choice and what they went with.

 

Thank you. Your recent reply is a much better effort. I appreciate the increase in quality of vocabulary.

To your points:

- The original toy was based mainly on the G1 lorry, with SOME design cues from the film version (see wiki entry). The G1 lorry featured two smokestacks.

- Another company has already upscaled this toy, and included two smokestacks.

- It seems that there is some, circumstantial evidence of TT designers being aware of the OSKO version by Wei Jiang (photos of them, in the same picture, as the toy, it referencing it in interviews?)

- TT have created their own upscaled version, seemingly with alterations similar to the KO's. Either these were directly copied from Wei Jiang, it the designers simply saw the same opportunities for similar re-engineering (I suspect in TT's case, there are times when they removed it changed features that they could easily have included, such as Titan Returns Galvatron's head , Energon Scorponok's base mode, etc)

- This new version features an even more G1 s style paint job than before, giving the impression that TT wanted to make this as G1-esque as possible.

Thus, it's not unreasonable to understand why others wanted two smokestacks in this version. Those people don't necessarily expect the whole toy to be "full G1", either, as the robot mode has a film-like aesthetic. They simply want something that is possible and is evident in a similar product.