Ocular Max Hellion (Cliffjumper)

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  1. RavenousPrime

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    When is this supposed to release?
     
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    July 2018....

    hmm, and we are in August now....

    Not sure WTF is the holdup, but we just missed the flash sale because of it.
     
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    Yeah, it's anyone's guess right now when he's going to drop. Just a few days ago TCP's calendar had it for tomorrow, August 10, but upon checking just now it has been reset to Aug. 24. They set based on info they get from manufacturer's but it's not necessarily what ends up happening. It's pointless to complain about lack of communication on these things but it is frustrating that this is taking so long as the figure is clearly ready and the black deco was released a while back. I personally find it a bit inflammatory that an extremely niche redeco was released way in advance of the figure proper, it ought to be the reverse. And to my knowledge they haven't even said whether they will retool this for a Hubcap release. MMC is a good company but when it comes to their OM line they often leave me scratching my head.

    Anyway, I didn't let any of this stop me from enjoying a good flash sale. Picked myself up a Generation Toy Streetwise for $65 shipped.
     
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    Isn't the black one already avalible? I wonder if it's going to be this month then. The Chosen Prime had him slated for the near end of this month. Looks like tfsource has it for this month too.. Idk though with these suggested dates because the whole third party fickle release date thing. I really want to ship this guy and some others out at once, considering this one isn't all that expensive compared to some others.
     
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    Yea, I got myself a Magten Silver KO MP Megatron for 75$ shipped, probably same price this Hellion will be with the flash sales :( . Hopefully it will be okayesh quality.

    Anyways, i should have insisted from the MMC rep at TFCon to sell me his no box version.
     
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    I think TCP has him listed at $69.99, can't recall offhand if you are in NA or not but if so that should be the absolute ceiling to any eBay prices you might pay. I have some points earned with TCP so if I can't find Hellion on eBay for a competitive price - not a guarantee with MMC - I may do it with them and eat the shipping but at least have it in 2 days.

    And yeah, this whole thing is your fault because you talked to the rep and had us all thinking it was like 1-3 weeks out! :p  JK of course, the cardinal rule of 3P collecting is don't believe anything you hear until the figure is in-hand.
     
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    HE LIES TO ME!!! FILTHY HOBITSES!!!

    Problem with Ocular Max / MMC / MT is they sell more expensive to China than USA, so that is why my guess is 74 - 80$ shipped from Ebay. I put 74$ minimum because Show Z has it as 74$. Ebay sellers may have to sell a little higher, but Baba should have the 5$ off.

    All that said, if we get the 15$ off on purchase above 75$ and Baba has it for say 80$, that should be 80 - 15 - 5 = 60$. Hmmm, not bad... Though Toro costed me 55$ lol. So hopefully Baba has it for 75$ or lower, and i will have to add some other junk to the order.

    Or, if 15%, well, say it is 80$, then it becomes -12 - 5 = 63$. And if at 75 or lower, then 58$ or lower. Not bad.

    Still, my THF KO MP Soundwave just costed me 40$ shipped... hope quality will be okayesh...
     
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    Close but no cigar.

    Feel like I might have to wait on FT or (hopefully) TT before I get that Casey Casem vibe and it feels as though Cliffy walked off the screen ...
     
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    I wish takara was doing cliffjumper instead of Hound (where I don't need to replace it), and at the slow speed they are going, lost hope on them. FT is doing warpath / beachcomber / we Brawl as minibots for the next few years (I guess 1 to 3?). So it will be a while to even start hoping. So in the meantime (like 2 to 5 years) these two options will have to do to keep the chair warm.
     
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    Porsche either won't give Takara a license, or they want more than Takara is willing to pay. I expect 3P to be your only options for an MP Cliffjumper (or Jazz) for some time to come. And frankly, after Koot, Apache, and Rouge I'm not inclined to wait on a FT version even if they actually announced one. I'm definitely not waiting around in the hope that they might do one, and that it might be better. Of the options available by the end of this year all have flaws, but Hellion looks the best to me, so that's what I'm going to get. If someone else decides to take a stab at Cliffy down the road I'll consider upgrading if I think it's better, but Cliffjumper is a major gap in my collection that needs filled NOW.
     
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    Pretty much this. I still love FT and anything they put out will be worth at least a look from me, but they have so much stuff in the pipeline already that I'm not really interested in waiting to see IF they even do one. And while I adore FT Seaspray, I'm not too hot on their Warpath and the blurry reveals of their Brawn and Beachcomber. As for TT, I'll never say never about them; a while back, a TT Bumblebee seemed an impossibility, and Sunstreaker and Hound highly unlikely. I don't see it as impossible they'd ever do a CJ. But their aesthetic has left me far behind and there's no guarantee their CJ would actually be all that good. Even the feelings about 'Bee are a bit mixed around here. To say nothing of TT's incredibly slow output, not helped as they jump between Beast Wars and Bayformers releases, and their ever increasing (and unwarranted) price hikes. I remember the good old days when one of the advantages of a TT carbot was its lower price relative to 3P. Times have changed. Neither Toro nor Hellion are my ideal CJ, but I'm not one to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and I like to think that this hobby is finite and will someday have an endpoint. More than happy to pick up Hellion and move on (if MMC will ever oblige me by dropping him).
     
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    Any photo updates since tfcon?
     
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    And preordered. This guy looks too cool 4 school. After watching reviews it bothers me quite more the backpack from Toro than the waist of Hellion, plus MMC ofering has a better sculp, transformation and alt imho.

    Now bring it home!

    And MMC if you are listening, reissue Jaguar please
     
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    My Hellion has been shipped. So he out finally.
     
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    I went back and looked at Hellion in comparison to Toro (which I own).

    Hellion's arms are really out of proportion (too short) for the length of his torso. o_O 
     
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    Neither did Bumblebee but that didn’t stop Takara.
     
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    Where did you order him from?
     
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    Big feet on Bumblebee always seemed more appropriate to me, I guess. But it's not like it's the feet that kept me from pulling the trigger on Toro. It's the dual related issues of his giant backpack and his realistic alt mode. I didn't realize that Cliffy was supposed to be a Porsche until I was into my 30s... I'd always assumed he was some sort of Beetle-sized kei car. While not perfect, I dig that Hellion is closer to the cartoon alt mode.

    (Actually, Bee's alt mode is why I passed on Takara Bumblebee in favor of ToyWorld's Bii).
     
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    Must’ve been one of those early exclusive deals like TFS had with DX9 Montana