MTMTE / LL: Who is the Grand Architect?

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Who is the Grand Architect?

  1. Rung

    22.8%
  2. Anode

    3.5%
  3. Shockwave

    28.1%
  4. Ten

    3.5%
  5. Tyrest

    14.0%
  6. Dude, Ten *is* Tyrest...super obvious

    14.0%
  7. One of the two Rewinds (the new one or the original)

    5.3%
  8. Functionist Universe Orion Pax | Functionist Universe Rung | Someone from the Functionist universe

    15.8%
  9. Functionism *itself* (they're battling a concept! How deep, how narrative)

    12.3%
  10. Spike Witwicky

    21.1%
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  1. Chiller

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    I like this theory. So, anyone who has died in MTMTE then. Hmmm.

    I was thinking a militant monoformer would fit Adaptus. With your theory, Demus is back in the running.
    Or could be one of the functionalist council.
     
  2. Insane Galvatron

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    She? Has it ever been stated in the narrative that Whirl is a female?
     
  3. justiceg

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    See discussions in both the LL 22 thread and later on in this one.
     
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    Skids
     
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    Nah, clearly the GA is our boy heinlad. down there on some pleasure cruiser, interrupted from idly scratching his humungous balls all day to stare in pants shitting fear at god come to life.
     
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    Perhaps it's Outback? After years dead, appearing only in flashbacks and prequels, he finally makes it back to life in the main 'present day timeline'. He proudly pulls off the helmet of his 'Pharma' body armour, and reveals his identity, ready to take a leading role in Lost Light from this moment on … in the final pages of Issue 25. On the last page of all, a random Guardian robot wanders past and shanks him.
     
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    Only if it's with an actual shank. As in a tiny improvised sharp object.

    The last panel of IDW needs to be a gargantuan skyscraper sized robot stabbing a minibot to death with a sharpened toothbrush.
     
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    In the shoulder.

    BRAWN: Argh! Oh no, not again...
     
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    Has anyone suggested Prowl yet?
     
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    That would be great actually. It would tie in with his Functionist leanings as well.

    Mind you, being IDW there's a disturbing chance that this would be ruined by a reference to Prowl's one-eyed status after Combiner Wars, by having, right after someone's pulled the Pharma mask off to reveal Prowl, someone else pull the Prowl mask off to reveal Shockwave.

    This, then, would tie into the inevitable end of the final issue of Unicron, wherein via a series of unmaskings, every Transformer is in fact revealed to be Shockwave, at various points in his journeys through time, and suffering from enough intermittent amnesia that it's a surprise to some of him.

    "Shockwave! You were behind … absolutely everything, all along!"

    "And I'd have got away with it if it weren't for you pesky meddling me!"

    Unicron is eventually defeated when, having observed this, he gets suspicious, finds a shiny moon to take a good long, hard look at his face in it, takes the mask off, sighs dejectedly (but logically) at the existential pointlessness of it all, and concludes that since the entire universe is already him, his current purpose is redundant.
     
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    Spoiler Alert:
    I've read LL #23 and it's Adaptus that's the Grand Architect.
     
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    Sorry, it's issue 22
     
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    Well, yes..... but Who is Adaptus?

    As in, the guy who has forgotten he is adaptus, flees functionalist Primus, goes back in time, and becomes the GA.
     
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    A dude dressed like a dude, pretending to be another dude?
     
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  16. Mega scream

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    Yeah, Adaptus is using Pharma's body.
     
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    Everyone being Shockwave? No way!
    Prowl might be Shockwave, though.
     
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    Well I guess I'll spoiler tag it, not that there's a real point:

    The more they release, the more it seems Adaptus was the real reveal. His original form shown in the LL23 flashbacks is pretty definitively not someone we've seen before. Also, given the fact he was the betrayer of the guiding hand, not Mortilus, I don't see any way he would be Skids. I think the only real puzzle is what it was that necessitated him to change bodies, unless it was damage from Tyrest/Solomus's brain portal.