IDW TF reboot has 2019 start - ICv2 interview with Greg Goldstein

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Danforth, Aug 7, 2018.

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    I wish cannon fodder was limited to the popular characters.
     
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    Times have moved on and Furman's writing is very much stuck in the same style he had in Marvel days. Which is fine, but it doesn't really fit today. Just like I wouldn't want Alfred Hitchcock to write/direct the next Avengers movie.

    I fully accept Furman's run was a lot better than some of the stuff that followed, but they felt missteps trying to move forward rather than stay the same. It wasn't a healthy state to be in where all the best ever TF stories had all come from the same one writer.

    His IDW run started ok, then got overly convoluted very quickly, and lots of stuff happened, but issue to issue the stories and scripts were lacking.
    RegenOne worked better if you re-read the marvel stuff first, but trying to write for 6issue trades really didn't match his style.
     
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    Oh. Amen, amen, amen.
    I completely agree.
    How can they even excpect any tension to exist if everyone knows none of the popular characters or characters that get lines can ever die.
     
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    Or if they do get killed, it's at the end of a "season."
     
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    Well given your name I'm not surprised, ha.
     
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    Only a few fan characters were created. Drift, Windblade, Victorion. That's it. Other characters were new from IDW.

    The thing is, even in older TF comics, Marvel and DW, there were plenty of random characters and unknowns. Cybertron can't be filled only with the characters we know from the toys.

    Who is "Kurona" and why would anyone care?

    Furman, if given more time and issues, could have flashed out what he really wanted to do back in the 90's. The way it concluded now is no way close to his original plan since Beast Wars/Machines weren't even on the radar yet. I imagine it would have looked more like his UK run.

    I admit, the story isn't one of the top three ever, but it did give a finality to the Marvel G1 story.
     
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    Who is Kurona?
     
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    Apparently a cosplaying anime/manga lover on twitter.

    In other words:

    No one important.
     
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    Lies and slander. Cybertron could easily be populated exclusively with repaints and retools of Optimus, Bee, and the Seekers. In fact those could very well be their factions.
     
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    I'd imagine that GI Joe (Outside of ReJoeneration One), Rom, Micronauts, MASK and Visionaries wouldn't have comics until their respective films were ready. Jem is different as it's basically IDW (mainly John Barber) pushing to do something with it, because ever since the movie disaster, Hasbro clearly only want to do the barest minimum to keep the rights and not have a property go walkabout like Inhumanoids did.
     
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    I'd read that if they made it GoT-style. :D 

    The House of the Primes has gone corrupt while a powerless Optimus deals with red tape, The House of the Seekers led by Starscream wants total power while being motivated to take down the Primes (rightfully given the corruption) with The House of Bee representing the commoners/NAILs, eventually leading Bumblebee to spark a revolution against both one he once called friend and the other a known narcissist that must be put down else he'll lead Cybertron to ruin. lol
     
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    My head now hurts. I have to go lie down.
     
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    I think it's reasonable to expect new writing talent, I think Roberts is ready to draw a line under his work, and move on. creator owned work can be more rewarding, and he made a name for himself, he can pitch whatever he wants, someone will want to publish it. Phase 2 is Barber's Baby, he did the reconstruction work that looked at what had been done well and tried to build a cohesive narrative, furman's decision to decide to consciously break from previous transformers tropes (galvatron and megatron as seperate characters, sunstreaker as headmaster, not just focusing on a g1 cartoon season 1 cast rehash) was a big help in establishing it as it's own world, and Barber took that and just extended the scope, ending it with the inclusion of a character Furman had decided he didn't want to rehash. I think it's generally agreed Barber is a better Editor than writer so his new position is not going to give him time to write much, so new talent working within his framework it will have to be...
     
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    Is it possible you misunderstood the criticism? I'm pretty sure the OP meant any new characters in the "fan created characters" banner. Rung, for example. (Actually, wouldn't Drift be in this category? He was created by IDW, not by "fans.")

    After all, a significant number of IDW creators have been TF fans for a long time before they were doing official TF work.

    But you are, of course, correct about this.
     
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    Wait, does someone else own Inhumanoids now?
     
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    They were going to be in Sitterson's Joe run, but at the eleventh hour - after the outlines had been approved - Hasbro came back and said they had lost the rights to the characters. So the finished issues swapped out kaiju-sized Fatal Fluffies.

    It should be noted that, as Buzz Dixon tells it, the toyline was cancelled before the additional 8 episodes were fully written. Which is why they went as horrific as they did. So Hasbro was 100% done with this property by mid-1986. No wonder they lost it.
     
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    Found her Twitter. I haven't frequented the comics forum much, but it seemed like people here did appreciate the ambitious aspects of the IDWverse? Seems like she seized on a short thread to get on a pedestal. In doing so, she tweets that none of the posters here are asking for obscure characters for any other reason than to justify a figure's place on their shelf, and that it wasn't because any of the characters were their favorite toy or had a funny line in a show. Really assumes a lot (and maybe I was put off by the Technobots getting red-shirted because they are my favorite Autobot combiner and the only one I had. Nice thesis, man!). I find the concepts IDW introduced fascinating and look forward to getting the collections. But I think the depth introduced in the continuity can coexist with not taking characters off the table to service a kill-count.
     
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    Hopefully there won't be like twenty intrinsically linked series, mini-series, and canned-series, topped with an event a month. That, not "eSsJeWs", is why comics are failing now.
    Now, that does not mean no crossovers or shared universe. It means the MASK title that spins off from a Transformer corpse seen in a random TF issue should not be a vital read to understand events in the TF book/books after that point.
     
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    It was an example of the concept.
     
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