After watching Thew's review, It seems like Shockwave's legs can actually move and poses independently at the hip joint; Which I glad. On the other hand, it's weird that Shockwave has independent hip joint articulation while Starscream's hip joints on both legs are linked together.

The spider walker alt-mode is a bit weird, even through it's not the worst alt-mode that I've ever see on a Transformers toy.

Hmm... not really. The only figures in the POTP line that has those foil stickers are the Voyager class and Leader class figures. The Deluxes, Legends and the Prime Masters didn't use stickers at all for deco.

 

Yes. I have three nephews (ages 3, 6, and 7). I'll go as far to say that most kids under 10* give zero fucks for things like articulation and overall complexity (the simpler the better really), and that they LOVE gimmicks. The two younger ones get more play value form the copy of Cyberton Buzzsaw, or ROTF legends figures, I gave them than any more complicated ones that they just can't use. So the simpler toys from the last two movie lines and RiD15 and now Cyberverse are an acknowledgement of the reality of things and nothing else. Kids just plain can't use even a Prime wars generation toy very well.





*Before anyone brings it up, kids of collectors are being HEAVILY influenced by their collector parent. So you can't really count that.

 

so a couple of extra joints, less (little less) hollowness and a more streamlined body mold make a toy unplayable?! Still skeptical but whatever, I hope kids have fun with these.

 

For a 6 year old that couldn't even manage classics Rodimus* without usually pulling the arms off, and actually broke it? Definitely. The 7 year old figured out Warrior Strongarm mostly on his own, without damaging it. So yes the less complex a figure is the better for kids to play with it.


*An extra one I handed then as a test to see if they could be around my collection without me breathing down their neck.

 

Everytime this subject pops up people always pull up children that they know that just happen to agree with their own beliefs on the topic.

 

Sigh..... They know we want a quality Voyager class Shockwave in the CHUG line but I guess Hasbro will keep making half-assed versions as long as we keep buying them. So this is where I stop.

 

If you'd pressed me before they were old enough to use any of them I'd have said I don't know, but ROTF figures were more complex then I'd like. Now I have direct experience.

 

That's why I have beast hunters shockwave and before that energon shockblast. I haven't been hurting for a chug shockwave for quite some time

 

Oh I wasn't knocking at you, just noticing in general that everytime this happens people that hate it say "I know a kid that HATES it" or "As a kid I would've HATED IT!!" and the ones that are fine with it say "I know a kid that likes it" or "As a kid I..."

Feels like it happens everytime

 

At least said kids are doing something more interesting on their phones than bitching about toys and the youth they don't understand.

 

They’re on their phones in forums bitching about the adults not understanding the kids not understanding their elders.

 

Shrug, the kids I see on here are usually just enjoying the figures they have.

 

Here's a review for Starscream. Its classics two pack prime v2!   from the waist down no articulation I'm all for gimmicks and kid friendly lines but this figure seems like garbage even for kids.

 

  such a shame indeed.

 

Pretty bummed out by how weak these toys look. I really dig the designs for Cyberverse.

 

Yeah, that thing is terrible.

 

I watched his review as well, now I can't unsee the alt mode as Shockwave doing the backwards walk thing from the Exorcist lol

 

They're basically saying "I, an adult who has not been a child for at least a decade, am qualified to speak and be angry on behalf of today's children."