Hasbro Cinematic Universe Is Shrinking, Transformers Unaffected

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    Except Aligned is over so all there is currently is G1 or Movie.

    People have been waiting ten years for the movies to end. They're still waiting.
     
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  2. Neko-bot77

    Neko-bot77 Face it, we're doomed.

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    And during that 10 years we've had TF Animated, TF Prime, Rescue Bots started up, RID '15, a ton of IDW comics, the Legends line from Takara, CW, TR, the Machinima shows for CW and TF. PLENTY of options for fans who aren't interested in movie lines. (I'm sure I've missed a few things here...)

    Hasbro isn't someone's private magic lamp that you rub and get exactly what you want all the time. If you don't like what's out, wait a year or 2 and see what the next thing is.
     
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    Who's to say that TF6 will actually conclude anything? They could just as easily end that movie on another cliffhanger.
     
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    Exactly my Opinion!

    What some People here do not understand (Maybe some Kind of...Wishful thinking) is that Next 2 Movies are already confirmed.

    No abort, no Cancel, CONFIRMED. They CAN NOT be Cancelled at THIS Stage.
    Because Bumblebee is done shooting, and TF6 Production must be Starting soon, when they want to keep
    the 2019 Release Date.

    Bay made the Ending with Quintessa for a Reason, so that another Director can continue directly from this Point.

    There will be Reboot, i also see that coming.
    And maybe there will be another Cliffhanger at the End again, but at least i want to see
    one more Plot about Quintessa and Unicron.
     
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  5. kaijuguy19

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    At this point it's best for them to make TF6 the actual final TF movie to wrap up whatever leftover plotline they have like Unicron obviously because the current TF movies no longer have the staying box office power they used to have. Even if the Bumblebee movie does well I don't think even that's going to be enough to help Paramount keep the current movieverse alive. They can always surprise me though.
     
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  6. artiepants

    artiepants Transformers '84!!!

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    i don't actually think it was stupid in concept, but it certainly was in execution: Essentially, it tried to do what WB/DC did, which was just skip over all the patient world building that Marvel Studios did with their first 5 movies. They just jumped Straight to the Batman -vs- Superman and Justice League without doing the legwork to make people care, just like the IDW hasbroverse did: suddenly "hi, we're all here."

    G.I.Joe for instance should have been a total reboot (as there was no realistic way that All Hail Megatron and IDWs more grounded Dixonverse Joe could co-exist).

    Really, to have pulled the whole thing off RIGHT, probably TF should have been a total reboot as well, seems like that whole thing has been collapsing under it's own weight in slow motion for the last few years anyways.

    and then things crossing over where they make sense, with TF (book A)/Joe/Mask/Action Man/Jem on Earth and TF (book B)/Rom/Micronaughts off in space and never combining the terran and the cosmic without a really good reason/story.
     
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    I personally wouldn't go that route, but I can see the logic in it. However we've got 2 more movies coming that we know are in the Bayformer continuity and they're still talking about a "Cinematic Universe". They seem committed to dragging this out.
     
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    Which the movies helped partially kill in 2009.

    All of which are the exact same continuity...which already ended. Not to mention with the exception of Rescue Bots (which was good if only because it had nothing to do with anything else in Aligned and only word of god put it in there), the reception of these shows was mixed at best.

    Those are basically just using G1 as a basis for telling new stories (and they're not doing so hot right now). Sure, some Beast Wars guys got in recently but for the most part it's just G1 design aesthetics.

    And those aren't all slavishly G1...HOW?

    Except that's not working anymore. Hasbro just does not want to reboot the franchise again and the failure of Aligned pretty much scared them off making any new cartoons other than that laughably bad trainwreck that is the Machinima garbage.

    Seriously, since 2010 literally the only franchises on the market have been G1, Movie, or Aligned. Absolutely nothing new.
     
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    The hell is that supposed to mean?
    Why do G1 haters so commonly love to use the example of, "Duh the GEEWUN transformers are dumb looking!!!1!1!!!! They look like dumb minecraft lego robots because of how boxy they are!" When people say they want their Transformers characters to look like their original versions, they don't mean they want to see the exact G1 versions on screen, with their basic, simple forms. All those mechanical parts are completely fine as long as they are added on to a robot that actually LoOkS like their original versions. Why the hell does Ironhide have to look so different for example? He can look detailed, but there's no reason that he couldn't have been red with the windshield on his chest.
    An example that this can easily be compared to is Iron Man. Google "Classic Iron Man." My idea is that a mainstream viewer would probably think that it looks pretty goofy. But compare it to the design from the first movie, the Mk. III suit. They are clearly supposed to be the same character, just different interpretations of it. Imagine if Iron Man in the movie was a man named Fredrick James or something, and he had a silver and green suit that popped out laser blades from the forearms. It's a pretty cool idea, but it's just not Iron Man. Now if someone was defending the green Iron Man, and said something along the lines of, "Those dumb nerds just want to make Iron Man look like some lame guy wearing spandex," he would be missing the point. What people actually would want from an Iron Man design would be the red and gold color scheme, the red on the torso and the gold on the limbs, the gold face section, and the arc reactor on the chest. It's not the simple, plain designs that people want to be used in the new versions. It's the same general color schemes, and the same general recognizable body styles.
     
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    Blah Blah Blah.. No Mask Movie? THAT SUCKS! :(  That's the ONE movie I would have loved to see.. would be so easy to make with current special effects, and can be CHARACTER driven! No wonder they don't wanna do it...
     
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    Your making this Rom sound interesting.
     
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    That's exactly what Marvel did. They used a bunch of "B list" heroes to start their own CU, they just made sure to put some quality stories and talent behind them.
     
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    :thumbdown  Hell no! Disney fucks up everything they purchase these days.
     
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    Honestly, I was looking forward to the ROM movie the most because I love good superhero movies, and ROM had the makings of a great one. So that is too bad for me. Honestly, ROM is probably the least toyetic toy property ever (I'm pretty sure that his original run was just one toy), so I am not surprised that his movie was the first on the chopping block. At this point, I'd rather have them license him out to Marvel since I heard James Gunn was interested in using him in the Guardians of the Galaxy films and having him in the Marvel Cinematic Universe would be a way bigger push than any Hasbro movie or comics relaunch could be.

    I think it was a mistake to build the Hasbro Cinematic out of the Bayverse. It is clear with the underperforming of The Last Knight that general moviegoers are over his particular brand of mediocrity. Plus, the lore of the movies had a hard time being consistent with themselves, much less a bunch of other properties. Granted, this is a lot clearer in hindsight, but I felt this way when the cinematic universe was announced.
     
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    Yes, because the all of the latest SW and Marvel films were awful, right?

    Oh, that's right, many were critically acclaimed and popular films. Even with their faults, they were miles better than any Bay TF film.

    I would actually love to have all the various Hasbro stuff in the same universe. However, currently, there hasn't been a well written story that has respected the original source material that has attempted this yet.

    Nothing about what I wrote was made up. Plus, it was about IDW too, so you're comment was already included in that, as Mr Milne worked for them.
     
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    Who cares what critics think of movies. I only like what I like, not what the guardians of soddom think is cool.
     
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    The SW films were boring and shitty. The Marvel films are a mixed bunch. Some good, some not so good.

    Disney is all about money and corporate bloat these days. They've forgotten what quality and magic are, which is the reason their company is so successful. But the difference between Disney then and Disney now is equivalent between a restaraunt quality meal and one you'd grab at the gas station.
     
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    Good for you. I usually find that film critics can offer insightful and alternate ways to look at films and help me vocalise my opinions in a more constructive way. They usually agree with my opinions, after I've watched any given film, do if they have given negative ratings prior to viewing, I tend to steer clear of such clunkers. Even if our views differ, they offer other ways of thinking about a film, or explain about films I would have otherwise ignored. They are as important to me as the film trailer. If we should make up our own minds, then surely we should about the trailers too?? After all, they are biased descriptions of the film, right?

    I'm sure, though, you are right. Without intelligent critique, cinema will become an idiocratic nirvana, offering such delights as this film for all and sundry:

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    If I'm paying for (overpriced) cinema tickets for my family and the only options were "boring" or "mixed bunch/so-so", I'd go for the latter. I'd prefer a steak, settle for a service station meal ("Little Chef" and "Happy Eater" represent!), and avoid the £1 "breakfast in a tin" that is any given Bay TF film.
     
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    I'm not sure you understand how movies are made and released.
     
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    Well if you find they are helpful, good for you.
    I'm disappointed in the entertainment industry as a whole, but I find critics tend to be vague overall, dismissive of things that go against the norm or things that will make them look cool when they diss them, and highly reticent about what I want to know about a movie before I see it.
     
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