DOTM finale

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  1. Russian fan

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    I recently have read the old posts from 2011 and noticed, how people were angry to see the different finale, not the one from the comics. And even now many people say, that it was the original finale. But I don't see any reasons to think so. Movie adaptation was released just before the theatrical release, but the filming was finished at the 2010' fall. Do you really think, that Michael Bay just rushed to change the Movie in the last month, when learned, that the comics spoiled the audience? It would be just impossible. Maybe it was the version of the script, that comics writers got, or possibly they just didn't get the full version and finished it by themselves. But it wasn't supposed as the ORIGINAL ending of the Movie itself. And you know, that comics are not firmly tied with Movie continuity.
     
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    I read the novel before seeing the movie: the on-screen ending blew me away, few scenes cut out, Q's death completely different
     
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    That's why Michael Bay was frustrated with comics - they deviates from the Movie too much and expectations of the viewers became biased.
     
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    I just miss the part where Megatron intimidates the elephants in Africa, and the omitted scene with Skids & Mudflap.
    I don't mind the other changed parts.
    I love DOTM.
     
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    Accepting Megatron's "truce" offered would have made Optimus look stupid, especially after Megatron literally stabbed him in the back in the previous movie.
     
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    YES! That's what I think!
     
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    I like the movies ending but they could of dkne better with it like have Megatron put up a fight and not just stand there
     
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    He shoots at Optimus, he misses though.
     
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    I thought he just stood there and stared at him and waited to die
     
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    Never read the comic. But I love DOTM finale. Best finale of TF movies
     
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    IDK, I mean I loved the final fight scene on the bridge, but I thought it ended too abruptly.
    I would've wanted to see Sam & Carly get married.
    What happened to Skids and Mud flap
    Ratchet actually repairing Optimus' arm
    also there's a funeral service going on at the same time for JAZZ AND IRONHIDE.
    That's the ending I would've liked to seen.
    ending speech: With all of the Main Decepticons now gone, It's over... This war is finally over
    I... am Optimus Prime
    ...and I send this message
    ...to all Autobots across the globe
    ...While We may never be able to rebuild our home
    ...Earth is Where We shall remain
    ...'til with the Matrix ...all are one


     
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    I read the novelization after I watched the movie, and I liked each for different reasons. I enjoyed the novelization's ending mostly because I could imagine Megatron having more dialogue than he did in the movies. The movie ending was brutal and epic, and probably should've been the end of the movies.
     
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    Maybe not a funeral for Ironhide or Jazz, bit at least Optimus and the Autobots acknowledging the deaths.

    Anyway, didn't Sentinel kill the twins in the novel? I would have love to see that.

    All the movies are rushed. I believe the movies need more time to be made.
     
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    Optimus and Megatron agree to a truce and Megatron leaves with his army.
    As for Que's death Shockwave's driller knocks him into the water and he gets ripped apart by Decepticon protoforms.

    I copy and pasted this from the tfwiki for anyone who is curious about the differences between the film and novel.

    • Skids and Mudflap appear, though only in the sequences where the Autobots return to NEST, and Sentinel's betrayal scene.
    • Sam's dog is named Buster.
    • Ironhide goes on a mission in Chechnya to stop some rebels.
    • The majority of Sam's interviews are skipped, as well as most of the more colorful parts of his experiences at Accuretta.
    • Lennox only takes one NEST technician to Chernobyl instead of a whole team.
    • Laserbeak transforms into a small robot dog instead of a human-sized pink Bumblebee replica.
    • Optimus and Ratchet travel to the Moon in a human-built rocket rather than the Xantium.
    • Sam escapes Laserbeak at Accuretta by locking the Decepticon in a server room.
    • Sam and Simmons encounter three ex-cosmonauts instead of two, though only one actually helps them.
    • Brains helps out at the bar by speaking Russian to the cosmonauts.
    • Dutch kills Crankcase by running over him with a car (don't ask how that works).
    • Optimus is meeting with the President when Sentinel reveals his true colors.
    • Rather than just smashing into the vault containing the Pillars, Sentinel threatens to take Mearing hostage and start killing humans until she opens the vault.
    • When Sentinel defeats Optimus at the National Mall, his decision to spare his life only comes about when NEST soldiers attack the pillars, forcing Sentinel to let Optimus be so he can go to their defense. In the finished film, Sentinel chooses to let Optimus live of his own accord.
    • Wheeljack falls in the river after the Driller's attack and then gets torn apart by underwater Decepticons.
    • Starscream kills Mirage while helping out the humans getting out of the skyscraper.
    • Not only does Soundwave make a "puppet show" out of Mirage's wreckage, but he also blows off Leadfoot's left leg (seems he has a fetish for red-coloured Autobots).
    • Rather then executing Sentinel with Megatron's fusion shotgun after Sentinel was crippled by the former, Optimus turns the tables on his treacherous master by slaying him with his own acid rust cannon.
    • Megatron isn't killed by Optimus Prime, or at all. Instead, his offer of a truce comes across as much more sincere; he kneels down and states that he is tired of fighting, that he will order all the Decepticons to stand down and that the war is over. Optimus is initially skeptical, but when Megatron offers to let Optimus kill him as an alternative, Optimus reluctantly accepts.
    • While the movie was ambiguous about it, Brains and Wheelie are shown to have survived the crash of the Decepticon mother ship in this version.
     
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    This wouldn't be in response to my post about movie comics being better than the movies, would it?
    Anyway, It was said that the ending of the comic and novel adaptations were changed so that the movie didn't have its ending spoiled, but honestly I'm not convinced.
    There seems to be remnants of Megatron being redeemed in the movie. His more gentle body language, feeding the baby hatchlings, his sympathetic moment watching cybertron in the alley. Why do all that when he's going to get his freaking head and spine ripped out? Megatron had zero sympathetic moments in TF1 and ROTF.
    And what else could be a good excuse for megatron's final fight being about 10 seconds long than it being added/changed LAST-MINUTE. It makes sense.
    Also the theme song of the movie, iridescent, has "Let it go" as it's main chorus. Does "letting it go" sound like murdering the heck out of someone with an axe? Uh, no. Sounds like a truce.
    Could just be a coincidence, but...


    I have no idea how you can say that. The only dumb thing there is a dread being killed by a human car. Everything else sounds great to me.
     
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    I don't get that. Especially what you consider "more gentle body language". He essentially shouts in Carly's face, raising his hand to squash her like a bug. He also squashes one of the little bots repairing his battle damage. He intimidates a herd of elephants. He orders a massacre of human collaborators, including at least one family. Yes, he looks longingly at his home, but he is also completely fine with enslaving an entire race to rebuild it. And he literally shoots his partner in the back. I'm not finding a whole lot sympathetic about Megatron.
     
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    Predictable bluff for Megatron. Of course, Optimus wouldn't kill him standing on knees. But no one, neither Autobots, nor audience would accept his pledge as sincere. 1-2 or 100 years - and he will return. And Autobots will look to the sky with the anxiety every night. It wouldn't work as a decent finale for this tremendous battle! By the way Megatron attacked Sentinel, because Carly was seeing, how Sentinel is arrogant to him and how Megatron demeans in front of him, so she made him remember, who he is - the only mighty Decepticon commander! Would he drop it in the next second and demeans in front of heavily injured Optimus? No, never. And Optimus knows His brother. No, the actual DOTM final is the only possible good final. I love it very much! I love, that it is so abrupt, without the classic epilogue. Because main heroes are alive and win. The rest is not so important... And Iridescent brilliantly fits this moment.
    Remember all...
    All sadness and frustration..?
    Let it go...
    Let it go!

    It says... The battle ended... You are winners, guys... I know, it was so heavy! Your souls and bodies so tired! You lived through so much woe... But you withstood everything... You didn't fall... You won... Now go and heal your wounds, go for rest, enjoy the life! You deserved it!:rock 
     
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    A puny little girl just called him Sentinel's bitch to his face, not surprising. Also recall that he stopped himself.
    True, but they seem to be drones, and I think that was supposed to be comedic.
    Originally, he was supposed to shoot one of them. He doesn't kill anything in the actual movie. The "human collaborators" scene is there to make laserbeak look evil, not megatron.
    The same partner that just ripped out part of his head a few minutes prior and tossed him off the building?

    I never said he was a "good guy"
     
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    Okay maybe I went a little overboard with my ideal ending
    You also gotta take into account that at the time
    There wasn't gonna be any other Transformers movies
    It was only gonna be a trilogy at that was it
    (which is why they had all of "The Big Bad 4" kick the bucket)
     
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    So it's ok to order someone to kill a bunch of people as long as you don't kill them yourself? I am still finding it hard to sympathize.
     
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