Transformers VS Visionaries #4 Retailer Incentive Cover

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by The Kup, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. pluto

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    While i totally understand a certain cynicism toward piggybacking all these properties on TF, what kind of hateful monster doesn't want to see the return of dino-riders?

    C'mon man, thats just...mean.
     
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  2. pilot00

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    Τhis, so much this.....
     
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    John Barber's still handling the continuity heavy stuff...the only issue there is that he's always looking for stuff we've forgotten about to bring in.

    also, dino riders. Yes. Make it a comedy piece about the dino riders being really obsessed with saddling the dinobots, trypticon and overkill. To an almost Wil E Coyote degree.
     
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  4. pilot00

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    Your point been? We have to see a decent, let alone good story for more than 10 years.....

    So this is the level of jokes and writting the fandom expects? Funny moments sadling Trypticon? Ok:

    lil_formers___crossover_mania_by_mattmoylan.jpg
     
  5. Focksbot

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    Ten years?? What happened ten years ago that was so good it's jaded you to everything since?
     
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  6. pilot00

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    Jaded me to everything since? I dont understand the expression, please explain. Not a native english speaker.
     
  7. pluto

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    Booo hiss! I like the old stuff better than the new stuff &c&c&c

    I may not have been super impressed w the first issue (Kup's hasbro mandated plot was some tacky garbage), but i'm keen to see where it goes. At the very least the art is p good!
     
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    It wasn't Hasbro that mandated they kill him. It was IDW. Editorially mandated character deaths are always a bad thing.
     
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    It's amazing how even with all those talented artists drawing them, their redesigned "modernised" costumes still manage to look like generic edgy crap...
     
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    I guess I mean: what's so bad about the last ten years of stories?
     
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    skywarp-2 Master of Teleportation

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    The old Visionaries costumes looked much better. Just needs a good artistic slant to it. The new costumes don't have that armor feel.
     
  12. pilot00

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    Repetition, generic plot lines, 0 unpredictability, social justice warrior tropes etc etc.
     
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    Soundwave902 The Lone Survivor

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    Within the last ten years:
    Stories
    * Last Stand of the Wreckers: Almost every character is killed, has a message of "People die in stupid, pointless, ways", makes the war even more cutthroat, and introduces characters who haven't seen any fiction for a while
    * The Shadowplay arc: Changes Shockwave's character entirely by making him a victim of the Senate who was originally altruistic with no previous foresight of a change at all
    * Spotlight: Megatron: An entirely different take on the standard "Megatron beats up Starscream" by adding the psychological aspect and ramping it up
    * Sins of the Wreckers: Introduces a new faction, brings a new layer to Springer's character, shows what happens to one of the "little guys" if they're ignored enough

    Ideas
    * Almost all of the Primes have sucked
    * Cybertron was always awful, with the government forcibly rewriting memories and mutilating citizens
    * Starscream is the Chosen One, but was chosen to unite Cybertron to hate him
    * Prowl being an antihero willing to do whatever it takes to save people
    * Thundercracker deserting and allying with the humans
    * The original Thirteen are not beings of mythical power (mostly), but guys who seized power when the opportunity presented itself
     
  14. pilot00

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    Yeah, no sorry. I stand by my previous statement. However good these might seem, they all have their inherent flaws that drawback in a category of the few I posted behind. I can understand why it might make someone joyfull, but nothing is original, its a trope that I have seen somewhere else. No wow factors at all, quite the contrary.
     
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    Soundwave902 The Lone Survivor

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    Could you please articulate why in more detail, sorry, not trying to be antagonistic, just want to understand your point of view
     
  16. pilot00

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    Would it sound snide/offensive/rude to you if I rather not? There are many things that I dislike about the way they handed both the lore and the character development as well as the overall script, which I find heavy handed. If I start posting here every thing that bothered me, I know it will turn into a flame war sooner or latter (and I dont mean with you) and I rather avoid that. Its a rather complicated issue with where this fandom is headed in general, who develops it, how and what the general expectations are of it...which will result in a rather....volatile reaction :) 
     
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    Soundwave902 The Lone Survivor

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    I understand, I have my own complaints about the direction it's headed now as well, and I know how sometimes arguments here can become.. heated
     
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  18. pilot00

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    Thanks a lot.
     
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