Would like to know this too.

 

Inferno, Wreck-Gar, Ratchet, Barricade, Spinister.

Jazz, Sideswipe, Hoist, Silver/Bluestreak, Ratchet, etc. Lots of options. Feels weird that Wave 3 wouldn't have a torso bot with its own limbs/team.

 

Right?

For some time (after selling off RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Universe, and early Generations) I was only collecting G1 reissues and Masterpiece. Combiners Wars brought me back to Generations and I've collected everything from Titans Return, as well. Never did I expect to see such a vast G1 update line as Prime Wars has turned out to be, with characters/figures, sometimes quite obscure, ranging from '84 to Victory. Now, when I think of Masterpiece figures, I can't get over their being over-priced, overly-complex, overly-fragile, and stuck in 1984-86.

 

Slag would have been benefited from the contrast that the black upper back the original proto showed. Stickers on vital parts of jazz is a tragedy. Elita 1 looks good.

 

and foot section is clearly volcanicus'....
This picture must be drawn before Hun-grrr's completion.

 

So that last ocombiner pic is supposed to be Inferno in torso mode? When I looked at that picture for the first time, I honestly thought it was art for a possible G2 style Hot Spot/Defensor.

 

It is both, inferno is essentially a name slap

 

I hope you know that Hasbro was the one that introduced the Afterburner remold first.

 

Hasbro may have released Afterbreaker to market first, but didn't Takara reveal on TFYuki's twitter their grey protos of the UW Technobots the same week Hasbro showed their production Technobots at some Toy Fair?

Also, you're saying the Afterburner remold was all Hasbro's doing... yet they didn't have access to the guns that came with the mold, but somehow Takara did?

 

Hmmm.... Has Starscream's other 2 combiner limbs been discussed? We know about the planes. But after looking at this picture here the leg limb looks like one of the Dinobot molds. So could that be Slugfest?

 

It's Sinnertwin.

 

Actually Hasbro and Takara Computron came out within the span of 12 days of each other! Hasbro Computron's "shared online retailer exclusive" release "street date" was August 15th 2016, Takara Computicon/Computron's official release date was August 27th 2016. So really, this doesn't make for a conclusive "Hasbro's came first" argument, it was most likely either a joint effort, or Takara introducing their Deluxe Groove with plans for an Afterburner retool just at the right time for Hasbro to make use of it.

See here for a partial timeline regarding the Hasbro and Takara Computron reveals. In fact, that post of mine addresses a lot of the points brought up in this thread.

Allow me to simply quote myself, with two additions at the end:

Now as for why Hasbro's version of Computron featured a retool of Air Raid as Strafe instead of the Blast Off retool from TakaraTomy's Unite Warriors version, that's simply a result of bad timing. By the time TakaraTomy even officially unveiled their space shuttle Blast Off (which, as mentioned before, was a TakaraTomy only creation), the development for Hasbro's Computron (including the Strafe retool of Air Raid) was already underway. Remember that we saw the first glimpses of Hasbro's Computron back in January of this year, and Unite Warriors Bruticus including the space shuttle Blast Off figure wasn't officially revealed until later that month!


Here's the obligatory Nevermore timeline:

August 13, 2015: G1 Blast Off sketch posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
January 6, 2016: Toys"R"Us computer listing for Combiner Wars Computron found (link)
January 7, 2016: First excerpt of a greyscaled prototype photo of Combiner Wars Computron leaked (link)
January 8, 2016: First excerpt of Combiner Wars Computron's greyscaled package art and second excerpt of greyscaled prototype photo leaked (link)
January 8, 2016: First Unite Warriors Bruticus teaser silhouette image revealed (link)
January 10, 2016: Second excerpt of Combiner Wars Computron's greyscaled package art leaked (link)
January 20, 2016: Reports from TakaraTomy’s industry exhibition (no photos allowed) indicate that Unite Warriors Bruticus will include an all-new Blast Off tooling (link)
January 20, 2016 (two hours later): Catalog images depicting a greyscaled Unite Warriors Bruticus prototype including space shuttle Blast Off revealed (link)
January 20, 2016 (several hours later): Magazine scans depicting better images of a greyscaled Unite Warriors Blast Off prototype posted (link)
January 25, 2016: Another photo of a greyscaled Unite Warriors Blast Off prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
February 5, 2016: First colored photos of Unite Warriors Bruticus posted (link)
February 8, 2016: First excerpt of Combiner Wars Computron's colored package art leaked (link)
February 9, 2016: Better colored images of Unite Warriors Bruticus posted by Japanese online retailers (link)
February 11, 2016: In-hand image of colored Unite Warriors Bruticus posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
February 11, 2016 (several hours later): Combiner Wars Computron's colored package art leaked in its entirety (link)
February 12, 2016: Full grayscaled image of Combiner Wars Computron mock-up prototype leaked (link)
March 9, 2016: Colored photo of the back of Combiner Wars Computron's packaging leaked (link)
March 12, 2016: First Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron teaser silhouette image revealed by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter, indicating a new Combiner head sculpt (link)
March 23, 2016: Another Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron teaser silhouette image revealed by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter, indicating a new Combiner chest piece (link)
March 28, 2016: First photo of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron prototype revealed (link)
March 29, 2016: Clear photo of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron combiner head sculpt prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
March 31, 2016: Clear photos of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Scattershot prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
March 31, 2016 (several hours later): Clear photos of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Afterburner prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
April 2, 2016: Clear photos of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Lightspeed prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
April 2, 2016 (several hours later): Clear photos of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Nosecone prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
April 3, 2016: Clear photos of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Strafe prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
April 4, 2016: Clear photo of a grayscaled Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron prototype posted by TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki on Twitter (link)
April 7, 2016: First colored photo of Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron revealed (link)
April 9, 2016: Combiner Wars Computron officially revealed by Hasbro at BotCon 2016 (link 1, link 2, link 3)
April 23, 2016: Magazine scans depicting more colored photos of Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron posted (link)
August 15, 2016: Combiner Wars Computron officially released through multiple online retailers based out of the United States and Canada (link)
August 27, 2016: Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron officially released in Japan and Hasbro's Asian markets (link)

 

More likely it was Takara who created the mold as a remold for UW Groove with an eventual Computron in mind much like Strafe as a Blast-off retool.

 

combined art looks amazing! abominus, (headcanon nicknames) femination, and heatblock look interesting in the "i'll take a giant stomp" pose

 

Expected? A Combiner head. Not a direct clone. What I would have liked? I think I made that pretty obvious.

I'm no Hasbro designer (therefore it is not my job), but switching up the design isn't exactly hard. Give the helmet a different shape, give it a crest, get rid of the 80s hair, etc. That's what I would have liked. Optimus Maximus had a squarer shape to the head with singular, grey antennae entirely different in shape to the standard Optimus antennae, a more recessed face and prominent head crest. Cyclonus had a crowned Galvatron. Starscream has a crown and a rounder shape. Volcanicus is all pointy and bug like with a different shape to Grimlock. Elita's looks a lot less altered than all of them.

 

who knows, maybe the combiner head is this "proper elita" and her actual robot mode's head will be based on her TAAO (RIP) appearance with the broken headcrest.

 

Looks like we might get a G2 Defensor. MIGHT. Or its that custom Fire Convoy toy made into an actual combiner

Also - Elita Prime/Maximus is her name. calling it now

 

All I say was Hasbro introduced it first. Never say they make it first or did the retooling by themselves. But seem like you are a mind-reader of some kind. I don't need to explain anymore, because Nevermore explains better than I could have.

 

TakaraTomy officially unveiled theirs first. Remember Hasbro's first showed the Groove head with only the canopy being different. Even after the new UW head was revealed, CW Afterburner didn't come with the new weapons.

Also it was revealed that CW Afterburner was originally going to be a Legends Scale CW Groove redeco instead of a Deluxe. With Ironclad, the version of CW Rook with a Brawl like head, being the additional replacement limb like Alpha Bravo and Offroad.

So Hasbro changed their plans based on Takara's work.

Randy

 

It's Inferno according to the previous leaks.