I'm surprised at this as well. I own all the other 4 on Blu Ray but I won't be buying this. It is by far the WORST of them, how anyone can say ROTF is worse boggles my mind, hell, the forest fight alone is better than the entirety of TLK if you ask me. With that said, I'll be watching it again this week. I watch all my movies (the ones I don't see in the theater) on DVD/Blu-ray from the public library. I laugh at people paying for movies at the Redbox (most of which I've already seen from the library) No fee to check out and get em for a week, it's in transit and will be here this week. I just watched WW again last week which seemed really long to me. That was 1000x better than TLK (which ain't hard to pull off) but not as good as everyone claims it is imo.

 

Ok mister "in the biz"!
Thank you for posting that reliable source. Now I'll skip the fact it was posted over 10 years ago, and assume nothing has changed in that time period. I'll also let it slide that your source, that doesn't comment on how he obtained his information, in fact at the very end of his writing states that this post was "Just some late night ramblings".

He does raise an interesting case though. He literally says that upon release, a theatre will get 20%-25% for a viewing. Your valuable and much reliable source contradicted himself shortly after by saying after a few weeks it's up to 50%. This caused me to look a bit further into it.
Since your Reliable source didn't note any of his sources or noted on how he got his information I Googled it a bit.

Seems like a studio that has multiple great movies (say Marvel as an example) will ask for a higher cut, meaning that the theatre gets less. Paramount for example, who aren't doing that well (Paramount looks to Disney model to recover after string of flops, nice comparison piece with Disney/Marvel) Can't ask that much.

So The strength of a studio is a big factor as are the percentages. If you had conducted a bit more, you will notice that although percentages are variable, after only a few week they get into favour of the theatre. The longer a movie runs in theatres (in weeks counted) every week more percentages go towards the theatre in sales.
It's on 1 hand to entice the theatre to keep the movie longer, on the other to rake in more money.
Overseas, the studios even make less on tickets.
(How Exactly Do Movies Make Money?)

But you already knew this, right mister "in the biz"?

So you are literally saying you have no idea whether the information on the source site posted has any merit? The information is true or false? Yet you feel the need to comment on its viability??

A cleaning lady can also work in the film industry, also a cable guy. That really doesn't say if the person is well informed or knowledgeable.

And granted, seeing as how you have acted towards @YoungPrime and the link you posted, I'm getting a sense as to what position you hold within the "film industry".

But in any case, you have entertained me!

 

It did flop in the US. But still grew a big enough cult following to Green light a sequel and unlike the WB, Paramount started this year over $500M in the hole and sure as h3ll didn't exp Bay 5 to do $500M less than the last Bay sequel so at this point... believe whatever you want. The breakdown on how Hollywood films turn a profit is there for anyone the ability to do a simple Google search.

And for the record I will be supporting Pacific Rim 2 and maybe even Rampage. Bumblebee, I won't even bootleg!

 

They didn't school me on Jack! B*tch about Gizmodo all you like but there's like 20 other sites in a simple google search that co-signed the same breakdown on how Hollywood profits from films. So don't conveniently tell me which site not to use when you, @Optimus117 and @herugrim can't shown anything different! WB can give Pacific Rim another chance because of a growing cult following, while with Paramount Bayformers is all they have left at this point!

Bay 5 was a flop, Paramount's last 2 years were a flop! Viacom couldn't even sell half of Paramount like they were planing to because of excessive flopping... So bias aside, this is all FACT!

So actually prove me wrong or run along......

 

And apparently TLK did well enough for a sequel. So maybe you don't have all the information to tell if it was a success or not.

 

He never stated that he does have all the information. He also never stated that there won't be a sequel.
What he did say was:

He's merely stating that although TLK is doing bad, the Cult following that there is could keep the movies going.
And in truth Paramount, which has been doing bad for 6 years (6 years ago they were the number one studio now they want to sell off before bankruptcy) could maybe make it work like Pacific Rim2 is trying to do.
Although they might need some adjustments to make Transformers entertaining to masses again.

 

Hello!!!! It's all that Paramount has left!!! Either that or a G.I.Joe reboot LOL!!!

Block-Busted! 9 Biggest Flops and Stinkers of Summer 2017

Box Office: Why 'Transformers' Flopped And 'Pirates Of The Caribbean' Was A Hit

3 Reasons Why ‘Transformers: The Last Knight’ Folded at the Domestic Box Office

And the list goes on and on....


Look their record this year and tell me what information I'm missing!
Paramount Box Office Receipts by Release Date

 

You don't know that.

 

Boy, I come back to a full-on flame war!

I wasn't going to bother, but since my credibility (and indeed, it seems my intelligence) have been called into question on multiple posts now, I suppose I'm at least moderately obligated to defend my honor.
It's not that I can't cite sources. It's that no two sources are the same. I did my homework, but every site I went to cited different numbers and sources. And since I was at work, and don't get paid to research such things, or engage in petty online arguments that get none of us anywhere, I called a cease-fire on myself and threw in the towel.

I will say that one common theme I found in my modest amount of research was that most of the time a theater's take depends on the length of a film's run. The longer it's in the theater, the higher the percentage they take gets. That's honestly news to me (it seems my original information was a bit outdated. Indeed, theaters used to make virtually nothing on films, but apparently the times have changed, if only slightly). Evidently it starts very low in most cases, around 10%-15%, and grows each week from there. I actually found it rather....fascinating.

All that said, my original point of theaters' primary source of income being concessions, not ticket sales, is still as true as it's ever been. It just seems they're taking a little bit more of the box office receipts than they used to. So in a lot of ways, we're actually all right. Funny, ain't it?



Now seriously, everybody grow up.  

 

If this post was intended for me,
I'm not attacking you personally, nor challenging your integrety, credibility or intelligence. Should it have come across that way, then thats my fault.

I just merely countered someone who used your name among others as defence and tried to debunk the ongoing discussion. Your post included!
Not you the person!!

 

At this point what does Paramount have that even has a shot at being profitable?

Arrival was a nice little money maker but it's not the sort of film you can spin sequels out of.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was ran into the ground so that franchise is pretty much dead at this point. People don't want to rush out to see their version of Star Trek and it's unclear if CBS All Access can reinvigorate the Star Trek brand enough to make more movies worth while. GI Joe is left in a mess that would be hard to sell even with a total and complete reboot of the films. Ghost in the Shell just added to the idea that live action anime isn't going to work in the US. Paramount doesn't own any superhero franchises. Baywatch sunk at the box office with no public demand for more Baywatch movies.

2018 isn't looking so hot since the big titles so far are Mission Impossible 6, The Black Hand, Annihilation, Sherlock Gnomes, Cloverfield Movie, and Bumblebee. Not exactly the sort of films that seem poised to take the box office brass ring from either the superheroes or Star Wars.

Mission Impossible isn't a for sure box office winner at this point because between The Mummy and American Made the rumors are starting to swirl that the Tom Cruise star power just isn't enough to sell movies any more.

So Paramount is pretty much stuck with having to gamble that they can somehow slap enough Band-Aids on Transformers to somehow turn the box office numbers to going up instead of dropping. But even there they had to go lower budget and cut out the filming around the world to increase the odds of profit.

 

That's the thing. We don't know.

 

ComingsoonDOTnet tends to!

 

Fair enough... I've made my points.

 

They don't know what is going to be profitable.

 

Well neither does Paramount apparently these days given their own recent record.

 

@Livingdeaddan must be ashamed of his fellow countrymen this day...

Transformers are shapeshifting their way to a fourth Number 1

 

Is this a sign that people missed out on Tranformers TLK at the theater?

 

No, it's a sign that the Transformers movies are and always have been a superior product than they are actual films. These home video sales are powered mostly by kids I'll bet. Kids who get it, or have it given to them, because they love TFs and just want flashy media with robots smacking each other around, and fast-forward through all the boring parts.

I know to us that'd probably mean the whole film, but remember I'm talking from a superficial perspective here.