Those comics are awesome because they're responsible for the existence of Flatline. I've been wanting an evil Decepticon medic for years, and Flatline's so much cooler than Scalpel (although he's pretty cool, too). I mean, I like Knock Out, but we need a TV show where the Decepticon Medic is a psycho scientist... Like if Tarantulas was a medic.

 

McCracken/WOY-style TFs would be cool, but now all I can think about is Genndy Tartakovsky doing a Transformers show. Now that would be amazing.

 

YES.

 

After doing a little research on Boulder Studios, I'm concerned about this future Transformers cartoon they're apparently working on.

Boulder is the studio that does such pure and utter shit as "Wonder Over Yonder", "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends", and "The Amazing World of Gumball"

 

I was with you until you mentioned Gumball. Don't be dissin' Gunball, man.   Plus, if they went and did another Animated-style cartoon, they wouldn't necessarily be a bad choice for that as the animation will at least be fluid.

 

I mean, I hate it when Flash/Toon Boom is used for TV shows (because of all the terrible Flash shows made in Canada over the last decade and a half), but all three of those are pretty good IMO. The first two especially - Craig McCracken is awesome, and Lauren Faust helped out on Foster's. Of course, I like the stuff Genndy Tartakovsky's made more than Craig's, but... Genndy made Samurai Jack and 2003 Clone Wars. Those shows are two of the best action cartoons made

Of course, the best Flash cartoon is this one, but it's not a TV show. Still, I never get tired of Homestar Runner.

 

Wait what? I'm sorry but those three shows you've mentioned are anything but garbage at least for me. They've proven to make pretty compelling stories and characters in those shows and Gumball has shown that it can do wonders when it comes to exploring different animation styles.

 

WOY is actually pretty decent.

 

If that poster is any indication of how they draw their animation characters, I\'m afraid for Transformers. At some point when you just draw scribly blobs without any care for the actual aesthetic and somewhat of a realistic style, the brand will either flop or have drastically lowered standard. The style of just drawing random odd ball shapes and using flash animation is pure shit. Pardon the language. I don\'t use profanity much but that\'s the simplest and most honest way to put it. It\'s one of the contributing factors that 2D animation is no longer popular in western civilization. Because when all you have is pure garbage being made these days, no one is going to want to buy it and every one is going to go for the 3D.

I hate being so negative, but that\'s just how I see it. And I\'m actaully in a really good mood at the moment. If this is what I think it is, consider it to be ignored.

At this point Transformers might need it\'s own anime series to get anything good in 2D animation.

 

The reason why 2D animation isn't as popular has nothing to do with FLash animation. Good, hand drawn 2D is more expensive to do (according to studios at least). Why do you think there's been such a huge uptick in CG animation? Pixar proved that you could do really good CG animation when you know what you're doing (which, when CG animation was in it's infancy, that definitely was not the case) and it caught on.

Going back to Flash animation, there's no inherent badness in the animation. It's a tool, just like CG and 2D. It's all up to the individual creatives to make good or bad use of it. So let's say we wait to see what they do with the toon before we start denouncing it's going to be horrible, yeah?

 

Supposedly 3D is cheaper, at least that's the myth. But lest we forget how expensive the hardware and labor is to have tools powerful enough to sculpt, rig, and animate fluently with such high demands. But I digress. It's not the flash animation that's so bad, it's the choice to just scribble a shape and call it a character no matter how ugly it is. I remember in the 1st grade getting books about drawing cartoons and they were the most primitive books you can find designed for 6 years olds like me at the time and they all had these same shapes in their dumbed down style to teach 5 and 6 year olds how to draw. Meanwhile you could go turn on the TV and find really cool looking cartoons on TV that adults drew and animated and many still think about fondly today. There's even young kids in modern day going to go on YouTube to admire what they missed as opposed to what they're being force fed today. I see them in the comments section all the time.

But to each their own. If it's going to be the Cartoon Network cheap scribble style, then this most certainly be ignored by yours truly. To me that is just pure laziness to draw that way. Transformers isn't a comedy where it can get way with that kind of lazy, cheap, style.

 

Haven't seen enough of the other two to judge, but Gumball's like a regular thing for me.

 

I like Gumball for what it is but Foster's was completely uninteresting. Tartakovsky's Clone Wars was also beyond overrated. It merely benefited from Episode 1's massive hype machine.

 

What is wrong with you!?  

 

Foster's used a paper doll style as a cost saver. Compared to traditional animation, it's lifeless. Plus, I never went through the imaginary friend phase so I had no personal connection to it.

Now, Clone Wars? His minimalist style worked for a comedy like Dexter. Slapped onto an action cartoon 2 minutes at a time, not so much. Oh, I know, Samurai Jack, but artsy for the sake of artsy is not a selling point for everybody. And then there's the prequel aspect of it. Some people get off on Halo grimdark bad ass trooper space ninjitsu. I don't. It took a throwaway background detail from the original movies and turned it into cookie cutter filler. You're welcome to like it but it did absolutely nothing for me.

 

I think little can really be inferred about a potential TF show from the studio's previous work, as they draw their art and animation style from the show creator(s), and Gumball is pretty much every animation style in existence in one show.

 

Maybe the next Transformers show should be performed in
Sock Puppet Theater

 

Like wtf is this thread? Halo is being called "grimdark ninjitzu" and FHFIF is being called "complete and uttershit"? And people are dissing on an animation company who's current show used every type of animation.

 

Yeah, but that's all we have to go on at this point.

 

The reason why Samurai Jack's popular is not just the minimalist style it's the way they've used it that makes the series so unique even to this day. It's also used to show themes in each episode and to prove a point in them. There's a reason why it won awards back then.

Also am I the only one tired of the argument that every other animation style that isn't 2D is lifeless? Like others said in the thread when used right all animation styles are excellent in their own way so I don't see why Flash animation's any different.