Cosmos:

We'll see him tomorrow so....

New mould OR old toy remoulded with added Titanmaster pegs (and a head cast in red plastic)?

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And while I'm here, here's the rest of the TR Wave 5 codes and reveals we should see tomorrow:

Titans Return Wave 4 assortments

Rumor: Titans Return Deluxe Wave 5?

The stuff we know product numbers for for Wave 5 (c May 2016) are

Titan Master

C2389 Optimus Prime
C2390 Toraizer
C2391 Ramhorn
?

Legends

C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray
?

Deluxe

? Misfire
? Twintwist
? Windblade
?

Voyager

C2396 Octane - Voyager Optimus Prime retool
C2397 Blitzwing - Voyager Megatron retool

Leader

C2388 Overlord - Sky Shadow retool

 

Why tomorrow?

 

Toyfair.  

 

First day of New York Toyfair!

There's no other major event before this wave should hit in May so I expect to see all these there.

SDCC is in July with Wave 6 theoretically due in August so we might have to wait till then to see w6. Might be some tomorrow

 

There is a Deluxe class Kup figure which looks like his G1 design... you know the same design that G1 Orion Pax was based on. I would love to see that Kup mold repainted as Orion Pax with a Titan Master head sculpt that actually looks like the animation model... unlike the BotCon repaint of G1 Kup that was painted into Orion Pax but they didn't bother to remold his head. (I think that was before BotCon started making new head sculpts for figures.)

Right now I have the thrilling 30 Orion Pax on my shelf as a stand in cause that's really the only Orion Pax toy I can afford. But I'd love a nice G1 Cartoon accurate replacement. It seems like nearly every mold gets repainted now days and Orion Pax is the only thing I think they can do with that Kup mold so I'd be surprised if we don't see it some where down the line.

There's also the possibility that they could repaint the Skullcruncher mold into this...



That seems a little less likely because this never actually transformed in the cartoon but if they make a remold/repaint of Skullcruncher to look like this thing I'd still buy it. I kind of want both of them, Orion Pax and this Allicon Optimus Prime but I'd rather have Orion Pax. On the plus side with this one they don't have to make a cartoon accurate Titan Master head cause we never saw his robot mode head. They could just repaint the original Titan Master that Skullcruncher or Krox came with in Optimus Prime's colors and that would be fine. They could literally do anything they want with the robot bode of this guy because it wasn't seen in the cartoon. As long as the beast mode looks like this picture they're good.

 

Sorry I need get this off my chest, but Seaspray seems sloppy to me.

First off, Hasbro couldnt have his head fold away? Really? They needed to add a flap of plastic, to "hide" it in Alt mode? Really?

And now it seems legends class figures are becoming parts formers, Seaspray and Brawn both have random chunks of plastic that can't fit in with the transformation? Really?

Just spend the money for one extra pin and do it right!

I just don't get it?

 

Having one part that detaches into a weapon does not make one a Partsformer. Hasbro has been doing that for YEARS. This is hardly the first time. A Partsformer is when you have to disassemble one mode and reassemble the entire toy into the other mode rather than it mostly staying one solid figure between modes. Parts that are removable to become weapons don't count.

The last time we really had a Partformer was Energon because Tow-Line needed to be broken in half and put back together again in order to transform him... Of course because of the way he transformed he was the only character that could combine with two different characters at the same time being the torso for one combination and the legs for another sense that part forming was part of his combiner gimmick.

Having a flap of plastic to cover robot mode parts also is not a partsformer and again this isn't the first time that's happened. It's actually really weird that you're complaining about that because we've had several Transformers figures that ended up with exposed robot kibble because Hasbro didn't design with such flaps. People usually welcome that in the design because it makes the vehicle mode more solid. The head doesn't always need to fold away, as long as it can't be seen in vehicle mode no one really cares how the head is hidden. Weather it folds away or is covered by a flap of plastic doesn't freaking matter. The important thing is that you can't see his head in vehicle mode.

Considering the size of the figure it's amazing that he has a panel to cover his head in vehicle mode. I would expect that on a voyager class figure but for a legends I'm not use to Hasbro putting that much effort into this size class. How can you call Seaspray a mess when they could of easily left his robot head exposed in vehicle mode? I've seen much larger figures that were way worse off than this guy.

 

Have all the Legends figures of the last two future waves been revealed? I've still got my hopes up for a redeco and head retool of Brawn into Outback.

 

I'd bet he's in the first wave of PotP. There's always at least one legends remold (or pre-mold, in the case of Buzzsaw/Laserbeak) from the previous line to the next.

 

We've seen 7 Legends figures for 2017 so far, and we normally get ~11 per year, so there's definitely one or two more waves coming before the end of Titans Return.

 

I really want those 2 titan masters...maybe reveals at NYCC...?

 

If the Optimus Prime Titan Master rumor is true I would not mind a Megatron Titan Master. He could have a TLK inspired face and a retool of Nightbeat's vecheal with a cannon.

I'm down for that, Megatron too. Maybe Skullsmasher and Mindwipe retools, but in G1 colors.

 

Need Octane and Seaspray.

 

TR TOYS
Losing track of all the Titans Returns rumors flying around? I was! So i compiled a checklist with all the info from the awesome Transmissions Podcast thread , Mr. Chaos's retail computer listings & other leaks and official/unofficial confirmations.
This seems like an unbelievable amount of product (22 deluxes!!! ~ i guess CW had 24 though...), especially considering 2017 is a movie year. It looks like they will keep Generations Titans Return running alongside Movie 5 product this time, and replace RiD'15 at retail, as the movie lines have historically had the "kiddie" sub lines that are currently ongoing in RiD (1&3 step changers and the like).
Big Update 09-14-2016!!!! Adding the "Take this with a major grain of salt!" rumors flying around the front page, apparently originating from Chinese social media. While some of this seems a little to good to be true (not enough obvious repaints, lol, but then i suppose Getaway wasn't obvious either) none of it also seems that far outside the realm of possibility either.
Adding notes to the ones revealed via Computer Listing from Mr. Chaos, as those have a significantly higher chance of coming true (the only time in recent years i can recall something showing up in retail listings that didn't come out was the Brawn/Gnaw wave of T30 Legends)
Titan Masters:
Confirmed:
wave 1
Crashbash (aka Squeezeplay)
Loudmouth (aka Siren)
Nightbeat
Terri-Bull(aka Hori-bull)
wave 2
Apeface
Brawn
Clobber (aka Grimlock)
Skytread (aka Flywheels)
wave 3
Overboard (aka Overkill)
Sawback (aka Lione)
Fangry
Ptero (aka Swoop)
wave 4
Repungus
Shuffler
wave 5
Optimus Prime <--rumored in computer listing
Ramhorn <--confirmed at NY Toy Fair
Rumored:
wave 6
Toraizer <--rumored in computer listing
Battletrap
wave 7
Grotesque
Ranger <--presumably G1 power master Joyride, who was known as Ranger in Japan
wave 8
Hosehead
Arcee <--Loudmouth repaint
wave 9
Thunderclap
Powerhouse
Legends:
Confirmed:
wave 1
Wheelie
Rewind
Stripes
wave 2
Laserbeak
Ravage
Rumble
wave 3
Gnaw
Bumblebee
Kickback
wave 4
Roadburn (aka Chase)
Brawn
wave 5
Cosmos
Seaspray
Rumored:
wave 6
Freeway
Hubcap
wave 7
Cliffjumper
Huffer
wave 8
Searchlight
Windcharger
wave 9
Ransack
Barrage
wave 10
Shockwave
Venom<--POTP?
Scout:
Confirmed:
(boxsets)
Rumored:
Wingspan
Cloudraker
Darkwing
Dreadwind
Deluxe:
Confirmed:
wave 1
Furos and Hardhead
Hyperfire and Blurr
Fracas and Scourge
Grax and Skullsmasher
wave 2
Stylor and Chromedome
Vorath and Mindwipe
Monxo and Wolfwire (aka Wierdwolf)
Xort and Highbrow
wave 3
Blowpipe and Triggerhappy
Firedive and Hot Rod
Throttle and Breakaway (aka Getaway)
Daburu and Twinferno (aka Doublecross)
wave 4
Chasm and Quake
Gatorface and Krok
Freezeout and Topspin
Convex and Perceptor
Flintlock and Sergeant Kup
wave 5
Aimless and Misfire
Flameout and Twintwist
Scorchfire and Windblade
wave 6
Caliburst and Slugslinger<--confirmed at Australia Toy Fair
Iron Apex
Needlenose
Crosshairs
Exclusives:
Brainstorm (Walgreens Exclusive Blurr remold, with different deco then SDCC)
Optimus Primal/Convobat (E-hobby Exclusive Bat repaint of Mindwipe with Sentinal Prime's head + Apeface vehicle at Optimal Optimus)
Voyager:
Confirmed:
wave 1
Infinitus and Sentinel Prime
Nucleon and Galvatron
wave 2
Sovereign and Alpha Trion
Darkmoon and Astrotrain
wave 3
Doomshot and Megatron
Dion and Laser Optimus Prime
wave 4
Blunderbuss and Broadside
wave 5
Murk and Octone
Hazard and Blitzwing
Rumored:
wave 6 (rumored - take with an extra dose of salt!!!)
Snapdragon
Carnivac
wave 7
Dinobot
Black Zarak
Leader:
Confirmed:
wave 1 (released in US)
Apex and Powermaster Optimus Prime
Twincast and Blaster
wave 2
Soundblaster and Soundwave
wave 3
Revolver and Sixshot
wave 4
Ominus and Sky Shadow
wave 5
Dreadnaught and Overlord
Rumored:
wave 6 (rumored - take with an extra dose of salt!!!)
Deathsaurus
Predaking
Titan:
Confirmed:
wave 1
Emissary+Cerebros=Fortress Maximus
wave 2
Necro+Full-Tilt=Trypticon
Rumored:
wave 3
Scorponok
wave 4
Abominus
wave 5
Landcross
Multipacks:
Confirmed:
Titan Force:SDCC
Voyager Sentinel Prime Translucent
Deluxe Brainstorm<--different colors than Walgreens exclusive
Windblade RID 2015 Warrior Class repaint
Chaos On Velocitron:
Titan Master Firedive(Rodimus Prime)
Scout Pounce
Deluxe Nautica
Voyager Optimus
Leader Quickswitch
Siege On Cybertron:
Titanmaster DieCast Thunderwing
Deluxe Metalhawk
Scout Fastlane
Voyager Tidal Wave (Broadside retool)
Leader Magnus Prime (blue PMOP)
These POTP rumors originated from 4 Chan, so take with an entire salt lick: i wouldn't even bother posting these, except for the fact that they largely seem fairly sensible/logical/likely ~ i guess they were posted a couple times the last two weeks, but i just saw the new thread today.
Prime Wars next Gimmick is toys to life. Download an App and scan the card that comes with the figure onto your iphone. Play "stages"(it's unkown what type of game it's going to be) using said character.
Titanmasters will be replaced by equally smaller guys. They won't be headmasters but closer to Micromasters that become target masters or weapon platforms.
Legends will still be able to cart the tiny men around
Prime Wars (<--probably means Power of the Primes) will still be mostly 88-89 crew. (<--hopefully meaning we get to the Headmaster Juniors)
Things like Turbomasters will show up from time to time.
All 5 Dinobots will be made as well as the remaining 3 insecticons will appear. (<--seems like a no-brainer, as they an Shockwave are some of the last iconic G1ers that haven't got any sort of update outside of Grimlock.)

Credit:
@Awesomepow
@artiepants (this is what it should look like!)

 

+1 for information
-1 for formatting

 

I applaud the enthusiasm but that's a bit of a mess to read! Some comments:

Bolding the class sizes, waves & boxset names plus putting those headings in Upper Case would help see what's what as would empty lines above and bellow. See here for how I last did it. If necessary, cut the info on released toys up to wave 4, that's common knowledge and wasting space.

Waves numbered up to 9 VERY very unlikely. CW ran six waves, T30 ran seven on it's deluxe.

Toriazer is likely to be Titanmaster Wave 5, based on his computer listings number being very similar to Ramhorns See post 1 this thread

Tjunderclap is *likely* to have turned into one of the boxset Titanmasters, most likely Thunderwing. The similarly named Thunderwing. As I suspect is Powerhouse (Rodimus) Transmissions Podcast Leaks

The Leader Op in the boxset is clearly not blue TF Showroom Images illustrating once again that plans for the boxset either changed or there was some confusion in the info passed down. Shame, Phil has room for a Titanmaster Ultra Magnus in the Diaclone colours, which was wht this sounded like it was aiming for.

The use of "Strength" and "Speed", and 2 of the Clones, suggests two more boxsets "Intelligence" & "Fireblast" aka the one with Cloudraker in and the one with Wingspan in!

Not all (None?)of the POTP vote candidates or winners are on that list. They've all got to be in the running as possibilities ESPECIALLY Leader Thunderwing who's an obvious Black Shadow retool (the head doesn't need to be removed to transform it for a start!)

 

I don't agree with the parts forming complaints because both SeaSpray and Brawn look fine without those pieces... but that flap really disappointed me for sure. The head not being able to fold away ruins the outline of the vehicle mode, and yes seems really lazy.

 

I want that seaspray for sure and the rest of the wave. I think the seaspray will be tough to get since he's popular anyway to begin with.

 

sounds like stuff hasbro would do. i'm liking the list except for leader predaking (unless it is based on TF: prime predaking) and titan abominus...i'm okay with landcross so devs has an opponent, but i'm seriously running out of room......gonna throw out those lego pieces soon....

 

Didn't add the spaces I had for some reason.

@marvel b lol!