This is not some snarky flame bait thread, I am just asking: Is it original? I should say I do not have a problem with cliches, they are cliches for a reason, and often they can really make a story more enjoyable, they take us out of the real world into a place we want these cliches to be real. Are they original? No, but they're not treated like it. We know they're cliches, but we can look past it because the story is so good. With that said... Is it original?
You know you could have just written in the other thread where this is more or less discussed. Original in what sense? Pretty much nothing that comes out today is actually original, everything has stuff from other things in. Sitcoms, action movies, comic books, cartoons...the works. Is MTMTE original as a transformers story, you mean? Yes...and kind of no. It's original in that it took a group of C-tiers at best and made them pretty good mains. It's original in that it actually develops and does not care to conform about social etiquette/relationships. So um...do redefine what you mean by original.
Yup. And that makes it original. It may resemble cliches, but it puts enough of it's own unique spin on them that it's still very fresh.
I can't help but feel there is some context missing, since you talk about cliche's like that's everything MTMTE is but you don't give any kind of examples so it's difficult to understand what your question is exactly.
If you're painting with the broadest of strokes, then yes, it's unoriginal. But that type of thinking could be applied to all sorts of science fiction. It's definitely an original idea as far as the Transformers is concerned, and for me, that's good enough.
You need to make a meatier question than just reiterating the same thing twice with complete nonsense filler in the middle. It's a Yes/No sandwich with nothing in the middle to support it.
I think you really need to work on how you ask questions. What do you mean by "original"? What clichés are you talking about? Without that context, no one can even begin to answer your question correctly. It probably wasn't a good idea to open with that, either. In my experience, "I'm not trying to _____" openers almost always point to the original poster trying to do exactly whatever they said they aren't trying to do.
One could argue it's a modernized version of G1 S3... but goes quite far in modernization, and does do stuff I can't recall being done before.
I guess as a concept, MTMTE isn't original. Red Dwarf did the comical cast of space travellers. But it doesn't matter. MTMTE is a great story in its own right.
You can't write any story without doing something's that's been done, there are only so many plot devices and ideas that can be used.
If dealing in cliches, archetypes, and metamyth is all it takes to make something unoriginal, then basically every story since Ancient Greek theatre and the Epic of Gilgamesh (if not far, far earlier) is unoriginal. MTMTE takes an established universe, established characters, and takes them in an essentially new direction. I'd say that's original enough. If anything, MTMTE has gone to great lengths to subvert the most blatant cliches it employs.
This thread is unoriginal as I've seen loads of similarly badly explained and vaguely critical threads on similar subjects in the movie and prime/rid forums. As for the subject nothing is ever truly original but as a piece of transformers fiction it does go to loads of previously unseen and ambitious places whilst also staying true to the playful essence that made fiction like the G1 cartoon and Beast Wars more than a sum of their toy commercial origins. It's probably also worth noting that if they had tried to push things even further left field in tone in the quest of being original they could have potentially misfired terribly into pretentious po-faced territory if not done with immaculate execution and even if done well I think most of us could agree that an overly arty approach is a bit too serious or high brow for this franchise. Maybe the OP could read it and make up their own mind?
Hmmm, you're a strange one... http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...n/1035973-my-deepest-sincerest-apologies.html
Yes, MTME is original in plot and world building, this thread is pointless cause the answer is YES and always be unless we get a different writer which will probably NEVER happen.
That is right! MTMTE is a handi work of James Robert and Alex Milne and other creative artist is offical cuz its a unique transformer comic series All those MTMTE fans aint foolin' around This series wasnt nominated for True Believer Award for nothin! this whole thread is a cliche
I would say the alternate lost light, and the time travel stories were unoriginal as far as stories go ( plots outside of tf ) Other than than that, this crew is boldly going were no others have gone before.
