In the legends thread

 

Damn, nice digibash, and now I fear this is exactly what is gonna happen, or at least for a few of them. I hope there is some more extensive retooling then a gun / cannon and head and new paint, but seing the protectobots helicopter only having new head / paint isn't too inspiring now...

 

That Ironhide works well but I can't see them not using the First Aid mould now we know what it looks like.

That Cybertron Defense Hot Shot is spot on though. Love that one.

 

So I think it's a good suggestin that every mould will be used at least three times, two of which are just repaints with head swaps, and the third a heavier retool. I've made a list using the following structure, some of the blanks I've filled with unconfirmed candidates.

Original use--Repaint--Remould

Optimus Prime--Optimus Maximus--Motormaster
Silverbolt--[?]--Cyclonus
Hot-Spot--[?]--[Onslaught]
Skydive--[?]--Air Raid
Firefly--[Slingshot]--[?]
Alpha Bravo--Blades--[Vortex]
Dragstrip--[Mirage]--[?]
Breakdown--[Wildrider]--[Sunstreaker]
First Aid--[Ironhide]--Offroad--[Swindle]
Streetwise--[Prowl]--Dead End
Rook--[?]--[Brawl]

 

As a Hot Shot fanboy...I need that in my life.

 

The problem with that is that First Aid was an AMBULANCE! It's even in his name. I do not like screwing up his character like this. Which is another reason I'm so disapointed with these here. Most of the other groups look great but I am severely disappointed with the Protectobots and Motor Master of the Stunticons. Some of the protectobots look good on their own, but I'm not too thrilled about the straying from First Aid and Hot Spot.

 

Body+"Armor":
Sliverbolt -> Scattershot
Groove -> Afterburner
Limbs:
Rook+remold -> Nosecone
Pick a jet -> Strafe
Pick a car -> Lightspeed
??? -> Filler Member

 

This wave looks so good I'll buy the whole set off Amazon like I did with wave 1

 

First Aid's axe reminds me of a TFWIKI caption for the Ratchet toy that had a Buzzsaw

"No Patients? I can fix that"

 

way too much of a departure from the g1 guys for me to purchase this for my boy.

Wonder why they did (takara ) Superion so close and did such a departure with these guys.

Oh well superion bought for my boy and Defensor not

 

fortress maximus

 

*pushes chips forward*

I'm in!

 

I wanted a Fortress Maximus made up of Autobot Headmasters from the FoC Bruticus mold, but this is even better.

 

Vehicle Voltron repaint.

 

Fantastic idea for a set.  

 

Brilliant!

 

I never intended to get the Protectobots. But now something inside me is telling me to get him to go with Superion, Menasor, Bruticus and Devastator when I get them.

Should I?

 

I think the reason why Groove wasn't a deluxe wasn't due to them thinking of Scale issues it was because a Motorcycle would be the hardest to make into a combiner limb as well as a decent robot.

 

You know, I kinda like that idea.

 

They should have just made Rook into Groove. Give the robot mode some resemblance and a Groove head and use the right colors in alt mode and it would've been a lot better than what we got.

They still could have done a motorcycle - Road Rocket would have been a great use since he is red and blue like the rest of the team. And the best part is - if you don't want a 6th Protectobot, he's optional! Unlike Rook, who is shoved down your throat.

We know what TakaraTomy is going to do with Menasor, he's going to look a lot like Superion in that they will double up on a car and give it a new head as Wildrider. But I don't know what they're going to do with this set. This one is a mess and that's a shame because they're my favorite Autobot combiner team.

Hasbro really has a knack for picking a strange time to emphasize the wrong things. When you are redoing G1 combiners, now is probably not the time to get hung up on scale. And even if you do, there are certainly better ways to approach it than things like Alpha Bravo and Rook, who come off much more as "we can reuse this mold several times and cheap out!" than legitimate attempts to make interesting new characters.