Rise of the Dark Spark First Official Screenshots

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Sol Fury, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. The Iron Magnus

    The Iron Magnus Optimus's Face-in-a-Box

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    That's good, right? Hello?
     
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    I played thru the Wii WfC rail shooter (favorite TF game yet), beat the PS3 version of WfC, and only got to the cliff jumper stealth mission on FoC.

    As someone who doesn't care much for shooters, I get even more frustrated when a franchise-based game goes too far overboard. For example, many transformers like Prime, Megatron, Starscream, etc, have recognizable weapons. It pissed me off to play as megatron and having to use a Nullray cannon. When I DID get the fusion cannon, it gave me 2 or 3 shots. Yup, then I was forced to drop it and get a machine gun. Hello!!! I'm frikkin megatron, not Bruce Willis! I don't want a machine gun. Running around looking for ammo spawns just artificially lengthened the game, and makes me lose interest in it... Part of the reason I also gave up on FoC is I found out grimlock goes Dino mode only when you build a meter. Stupidest idea ever. Killed my desire to be a space t-rex.
     
  3. Clifftothemax

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    My opinion is staying exactly where it is thank you very much. Why? Because the damn game is not even out yet, and anyone with any sense would judge the final product rather than instantly decrying everything about it.
     
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    Thanks for your explanation MasterZero. It does feel it's mostly you're looking for something that WFC/FOC simply are not offering. Still, I encourage you to try out FOC if you get the chance - I can't promise you that there are more (meaningful, named character) deaths or more realistic, serious or dramatic banter you might prefer - but I do think the stakes really do feel higher.
    The first and final level are a joy to play and experience (everything in between as well but these are the best). :) 

    Suit yourself of course, but I'm sorry - these are all extremely petty reasons to stop playing a game. The Cliffjumper level is what..the third level?

    All of your reasons are forced or simply not true. in FOC they fixed the ammo scarcity from WFC so you never have to get out of your way to find it. It's literally scattered everywhere.

    I'd say it's way more realistic for a character to switch between weapons rather than keeping just to his iconic one - but I can understand why one would want to play as Megatron and have a big cannon - and you CAN.
    I mean seriously, in all the level as his I used nothing BUT the riot cannon - especially after buying some of the upgrades that thing is unstoppable.

    Grimlock's transformation IS timed. His levels are also FILLED with enemies and scripted events - you're literally transforming to dino mode every 30 seconds, and can stay in that mode as long as you keep killing enemies.


    I can't believe somebody would play through the entire Wii version of WFC and then drop FOC at level 3. I can't. :confused: 
     
  5. MasterZero

    MasterZero Taking a Break

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    Thanks for trying to understand. I know I'll like FOC more, after what I've seen, but its not perfect yet.

    So many people refer to WFC as being a super dark story. The darkest story. Maybe in terms if lighting, but in other stories, the main heroes actually end up dying in horrible ways, it isn't that dark.
     
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    No worries man, thanks for ! I guess it really does! I enjoyed all the Matrix games too, and certainly not for the gameplay!

    All true, but I personally still give them more credit than I do the studio that is spreading (or dumping, we'll see) their load over all the other versions. I think on the whole I have very low expectations for franchise games anyway. I'm just happy if the developers are fans of the franchise and the game is playable! That's why I enjoyed WFC and FOC! They were otherwise massively unremarkable shooters imo.

    Now you have gotten me curious as to the Transformers game you'd actually want! What continuity, and who would you like to develop it? You don't have to answer that, of course! Got me thinking though!
    Hmmm... perfect Transformers game...
     
  7. Archaea

    Archaea Autobot Archeaologist

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    I like this. As a fan of the movieverse, but not necessarily each movie. I'm glad it will meld the universes. Want to see how they play out.
    Alot of the GeeWunner's need to understand this isn't just their Transformers, it's for a whole new generation. This IS their new GeeWun, eventually they'll be just like you thinking people shit on the movieverse stuff.
    Take it for what it is, and be happy we got two great games in WFC, and FOC!
     
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    Colour me interested. I loved the ROTF game, I enjoyed WfC/FoC and now I get to throw my giant robots against another universe of giant robots and oooh there's a horde mode I love horde modes, okie dokie and there's a fire-breathing robot dinosaur, excellent.

    Sweet.
     
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    Easy. I got bored of it. WFC had better art, two player co-op. It's only downside was the lack of ammo and crappy melee. I literally had to backtrack to the beginning of some levels to find ammo. Killed the fun.

    With FoC, I found it to be to derivative, but lost fun elements such as multiplayer campaign, the art took a nosedive, and it couldn't hold my attention to play. I ended up going to YouTube and just watching the cinematics. The story, I felt, wasn't as good as WfC, either. Again, this is my personal opinion, I don't expect you to approve or care, it's just coming from a fan of transformers since I got diaclones at a fleamarket in 1983.
     
  10. Anguirus

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    I'm pretty satisfied that it's coming out for the 360. I hardly ever game anymore but this seems like a good lark.
     
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    As to date, I played nearly every Transformers-Game that is out there. Yes, even the shitty ones.

    High Moon Studios did a great Job with WfC. This modern take on the Transformers-Franchise had everything I could dreamt of. A cool origin Story with lots of funny Moments, great Action Sequences and cool Interpretations of our beloved Characters.

    The MP Part was awesome. Class based Combat, cool modes, Kill Streaks, Customisations and a Boatload of Characters to pick and personalyze. Awesome weapons and abilities and well done balancing.

    Escalation Mode was extremely satisfiying to Play with friends and very challenging.

    Then came FoC... Overall a nice Game but way behind WfC. Where are the Transformers in this Game? You can Play as like 7 different Characters in Campaign. Escalations has four Levels and Forces you with preset Characters to choose from. Stupid Abilities ruined this mode for everyone.

    The MP part is suffering also. The customisation is great, okay given, but where are the Kill streaks, the cool weapons, the abillities? Douple jump, Barrel roll? No vehicle abillities! Hello? How can you come up with those stupid game changes when you ALREADY HAVE WfC in Hand?

    Oh and this third Movie Game? Well, lets just pretend that never happend...


    I will definetly end up buying this sooner or later, after all it's the Transformers... but I do not get my hopes up.

    I mean, how is this even supposed to work? As of now in the Videogame-Universe, they are somewhere in space, searching their way back home or elsewhere. And they are in their Cybertronian Form. HMS-Style. Do they magically Pop up on earth and think "hey let's Change the way we look!" and Bazing!!! they have human vehicle form just like that?

    I think at least the Story is going to be utter shit at best. Maybe the gameplay can deliver but only time will tell.

    One thought at the end:
    Why should Grimlock even bother changing his cybertronian alt form? It's not like anyone will mistake him for a real dinosaur!
     
  12. ZapRowsdower

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    No, you have good expectations... but as a writer, I can kind of see how things churn and spin in the background of these things. Attack on Titan is an AMAZING show. But it's also a good example of red shirts being killed off. Granted, you get to know the red shirts for a few minutes, but they're still red shirts! The show is good AND heavy-handed - the drama tricks tend to repeat and go overboard as you watch into the later episodes, and the show becomes somewhat formulaic, despite the great presentation and storytelling. I've got a good feeling for Attack on Titan, but the back of my mind is worried sick that it will end like a lot of other good anime's/manga's: sucky, disappointing resolution that doesn't properly answer all the questions laid out, due to (in my opinion) a poorly crafted story that was written from the seat of the writer's pants.

    As for TF games/stories: if we make an analogy with Attack on Titan, we're saying we need to create brand new characters that will have the onscreen time equivalent of what? 5 minutes? Then kill them, while preserving the core, TM'ed cast, and also pretending we had no idea that STARSCREAM would live, while STARBASHER would die. :rolleyes: 

    Also, I'm sorry for your dead toys! :eek: 

    Great comments, excellent point. I wanted to like what they did with Grimlock, but... wow. I mean, they acknowledge that Grimmy is ultra powerful: excellent. So they use a comic book solution? Let's poison, cripple, and/or castrate him so he can be an equal with the other bots! YEAAAAAH!

    It's not a "terrible" idea (in that comics due this sort of thing CONSTANTLY), but the way HMS promoted the Grimlock mechanic, you'd think they'd invented the concept.

    Plus, no one had a problem with Grimlock wailing on generic insecticons??? Lame. (At least throw in a hoard of random Sharkticons...)

    Hold up:
    A) You don't know the studio/are not a fan of their games (theoretically)
    B) It's a movie-tie-in game with a release date LOCKED around the movie release
    C) It seemingly mashes the movieverse into the WfC/FoC world, for what is likely to be a silly/bad premise (of course, ymmv on this point)
    D) Most past situations involving a new studio taking over and reworking a different studio's product... has that turned out better than the original product?

    I could really go on, but suffice it to say, it's not an unreasonable expectation to have low expectations for this next game. That said, if your goal is to enjoy this new TF game (and kudos for an admirable, brand-supporting goal), I have no doubt that you can enjoy this next game. But if you're an objective player... :rolleyes2 
    I'm not too informed on the myriad of continuities, nor a complete expert on all the animated programs. I can just say I prefer G1, Prime was pretty good (save for the movie-based restrictions imposed on it), and I pretty much loathe what Bay did to the brand (save getting the mainstream interested in what was a niche product).
    Frankly, despite some of the odd revisions (i.e. Grimlock on Cybertron was a TERRIBLE idea), I didn't mind the WfC/FoC games. Despite some of the (well-deserved) criticisms for FoC, I think the intro sequence with Bee was pretty inspired. I also loved the final battle - it expertly switched factions smoothly and effortlessly in what I believe to be one of the best final levels of ANY game. Going from taking out the Autobots as Bruticus, to then taking over Jazz to knock him down and out? Brilliant. :thumb 
    Some great points. FoC definitely seemed to break some of the better parts of WfC multi. I actually enjoyed WfC multi and managed to Plat that game (despite some trouble). FoC is just a nightmare. The balance seems off, in that it feels waaaaay more in favor of those playing the game the longest. I get that they were "improving" the balance... but why do I get the feeling this only improved things for the pro's?

    And yeah, I can only imagine what a movieverse crossover story would be like in this game: utter garbage.

    And incidentally, despite my cynicism, I've never been so pessimistic as to be unable to enjoy something I expected to suck! I definitely enjoyed the two HMS games, despite how much I thought they'd suck. But for one thing, they actually went in a G1 direction, and surprise, surprise... people liked that???:rolleyes2