Thanks a lot, man. I appreciate the vote of confidence. I've been blocked from the thread, but it's good to know that my posts are still there and the rant I put out there is still available.
Thanks, brah, and likewise. I've just about had it with the rabid Movie-verse fans who lash out aggressively against legitimate criticisms leveled against the franchise.
But Moses is a hero. Sure, he's a man, but how many familiar figures in the Bible have as high a profile as Moses? He's held up as an example of how Christians should live their lives. He appeared with Elijah during Jesus' Transfiguration. He's certainly revered by Jews, and even the Koran refers to him as a holy man. How does that not make him a hero?
The point I'm trying to make is that, while you very much consider a fictional hero's actions (i.e., executing a downed combatant) as being unacceptable, heroes who are revered and considered as actual historical figures have done similar actions as punishment for crimes (i.e., idolatry), even though the guilty parties did not kill anyone.
I don't think the argument that Judge Dredd is an "antihero" holds much water, considering in his world he is legally exercising the law of the land, mainly because the villains are so much worse than he.
On the other hand, the Punisher operates in the same world as Spiderman, so he's going to be considered by law enforcement agencies to be as big a danger as the mobsters he shoots.
As for the question about my comments on source materials other than the movie - I'm not being sarcastic about it. I do think a movie's creative team would be doing a bad job if they require their audience to go over material like the movie comics or novels just to figure out what is the story being told onscreen.
Actually that makes Moses a man I don't know how many people would consider him or really anyone in the Bible outside of maybe Jesus a hero. Characters like Judge Dread, The Punisher, ect..are actually considered anti-heroes. While still basically considered "good" their actions keep them outside the realm of heroes.
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic about people having to go beyond the movie into other realms to understand what's happening in the movie. Sorry I even have to ask if you were being sarcastic but it's hard to tell on here what people actually mean over the internet.
Oh I agree. It's a bit much to expect a moviegoer to have to go look up other media (books, comics) to understand what's going on in a film.
As for the morality of a hero remorsely executing someone...morality certainly isn't a one size fits all thing. You don't accept heroes doing that, but then there are protagonists like Judge Dredd whose job is to be judge, jury and executioner.
And going back earlier than that, religious texts like the Bible have made reference to heroes executing - or ordering/endorsing the executions of people who have done wrong, even if the criminal act didn't involve anyone dying. The Golden Calf incident in Exodus 32 resulted in Moses ordering the deaths of 3,000 of his fellow Isrealites, because they messed up and worshipped the wrong god. Does that make him less of a hero?
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