Both have been opened and displayed only. I never transformed either of them, so the condition on both would be near mint and complete. The boxes have a bit of shelf wear from storage but still look very nice. Optimus is $165 shipped and Thundercracker is $165 shipped. I'll do both for $320 shipped, so you save a little bit on the shipping. If you need pictures, PM me with your phone number and I can text them to you. THANKS!!! My eBay name is Angob88 if you need feedback.
