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			<title>So whats the justification behind the Constructicon drones?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So in ROTF the Constructicons are not just a handful of robots, they are very much an ill-defined...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So in <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> the Constructicons are not just a handful of robots, they are very much an ill-defined subgroup but why?<br />
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To know that the film has a couple of robots called Rampage who are supposed to be different entities is just full on confusing.<br />
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				<div style="font-style:italic">The Constructicons are a group of Decepticons that take the form of various construction vehicles, many sharing alternate modes, body-types and even names. Constructicons have been built since the dawn of the Transformer race, and used to be considered simple drones. <i><font size="1">Tales of the Fallen issue 3</font></i></div>
			
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</div>What was there purpose? Did Hasbro want to change what Constructicons were? Why did Bay need an army of Constructicon drones and not just simply use the main 6/7 in the scenes?<br />
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The whole thing boggles my mind.</div>

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			<title>Wastes of CGI..</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:22:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Who do you think was a waste of CGI in Both movies.  
 
ROTF: Random decapitated robot</description>
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<acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym>: Random decapitated robot</div>

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			<title>Only a Prime can defeat the Fallen</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:18:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>i know this topic has been discussed in the past, but i dont think this answer has been posted...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i know this topic has been discussed in the past, but i dont think this answer has been posted yet-it just occurred to me while watching what this could possibly mean-i remember a while ago there were arguements about it, and it just occured to me: <br />
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after the remaining Primes (not the original 7, but the descendants) saw what had happened with the Fallen betraying them, the decided that all future Autobots would be built to not be perfect, not solid, not...so awesome. The Decepticons only knew the Fallen, and I doubt he would share his designs with lesser beings. The autobos could have made themselves like primes to destroy the decepticons with ease, but then had the same problem they had with the Fallen. but to preserve their lineage, they would preserve it with certain bots. like Optimus. but despite his awesome strength, they would make him not as resilient, in case something went wrong-which is why Optimus could beat the Fallen, and how Megatron, who i clearly not a prime, could kill Optimus. <br />
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another thought is that when they say &quot;only a Prime&quot; they mean the only good guy strong enough to win is a Prime-however, Megatron, who isnt a good guy, may have been strong enough to beat him, but wanted to learn more from him first. <br />
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waddya think? obviously not cannon, but plausible?</div>

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			<title>Best Visual Effects Competition?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:22:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Is anyone generally worried that ROTF will get ousted by Avatar this year (or maybe another movie...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is anyone generally worried that <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> will get ousted by Avatar this year (or maybe another movie that's another technical marvel) for the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects?<br />
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Last time saw the Golden Compass interfere with ILM's trophy. I'm sure we can all assume that the Academy will slobber all over another Cameron wonder film (considering that almost every movie he's made has won the award).</div>

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			<title>So if Optimus and Megatron are brothers.............</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:11:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[In the first movie as we all know Prime called Megatron his brother. So if they're brothers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In the first movie as we all know Prime called Megatron his brother. So if they're brothers wouldn't Megatron be a decendent of the primes in <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> as well?</div>

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			<title>Bumblebee Talking in part 3.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:05:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>What you think will they give him his voice back or just keep the radio as his normal voice.. 
 
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Personally i would love to see him get his voice back english or not would make him even more cool yes they did put one word for him to say.<br />
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Sam in the garage scene but i dont understand why they cut it out...</div>

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			<title>ROTF fanedit project</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:19:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>(I've got a permission to re-post this topic in slightly different form)</b><br />
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After watching <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> in theater I thought that it would be a good idea to re-cut this movie and remove some of its stupidity, and other useless stuff. After buying DVD release I've made some changes, and here's the list of them:<br />
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- Twins dialogue scene in Shanghai cut<br />
- dialogue between Sam and his parents at the beginning trimmed<br />
- kitchen-bots trimmed<br />
- humping dogs removed <br />
- some of Sam's mom scenes deleted<br />
- garage scene replaced with alternative version <br />
- crying Bumblebee cut<br />
- Epps alternate line after Optimus transforms added<br />
- Leo's pals trimmed<br />
- cut all Sam's parents scenes at the college<br />
- cut Sam, Leo &amp; friends going to the party <br />
- cut Sam &amp; Alice in Bumblebee<br />
- trimmed Wheelie trying to get the shard (no mouse trap, less talking)<br />
- Sam is freaking out in his room a little less<br />
- cut Leo's reaction on Sam in his room<br />
- most of the dialogue between Sam and Mikaela during escape deleted <br />
- cut Leo's &quot;So hot&quot; line<br />
- part of the Paris scenes deleted<br />
- twins removed from Sam &amp; Leo discussion scene<br />
- cut part of Decepticons arrival <br />
- part of Simmons dialogue removed<br />
- &quot;don' tell my mother&quot; removed<br />
- some of Wheelie's lines removed<br />
- Simmons ass and dialogue before going to museum cut<br />
- cut Leo's toilet scene<br />
- removed Leo line &quot;I'm not going anywhere&quot; when Simmons paralyzing the guard<br />
- humping wheelie removed<br />
- cut part of Jetfire dialogue and parachute scene<br />
- cut the scene in which Mikaela lies on Leo<br />
- Galloway plane and Egypt scenes removed<br />
- Leo &amp; Simmons sleeping removed<br />
- Leo's panic in the car removed<br />
- paralyzing Leo removed<br />
- cut part of dialogue between Leo and Simmons<br />
- part of Headquarters talking deleted<br />
- most of the US Air Force showing off (probably stock footage) deleted<br />
- removed &quot;enemy scrotum&quot;<br />
- cut &quot;Transformers heaven&quot;<br />
- cut one shot of Optimus after his resurrection which was used twice<br />
- Linkin Park song replaced with Stan Bush - Till all are one<br />
<br />
19 minutes of footage was removed, and what's left is more serious and faster version of this movie.<br />
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What you think of those changes? Is it change for better or worse? What would you cut out?</div>

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			<title>r2-d2 in transformers 2 ??</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:02:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>yep that,s right... just suprised that i didnt see it !! 
 
here it is ! : 
 
R2-D2 Caught In...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>yep that,s right... just suprised that i didnt see it !!<br />
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here it is ! :<br />
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<a href="http://gizmodo.com/5386296/r2+d2-caught-in-transformers-2" target="_blank">R2-D2 Caught In Transformers 2 - R2-d2 - Gizmodo</a></div>

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			<title>Was Movie Optimus the first?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:07:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I always being wondering after watching the 2 movies. Is this incarnation of Prime the first to...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I always being wondering after watching the 2 movies. Is this incarnation of Prime the first to kill a decepticon? Because apparently it caused a lot of people to complain =P. I also find it hard to believe that in 25 years of history no Optimus has ever killed a decepticon. So was he the first?</div>

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			<title>Funny ROTF Content</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
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Haha .<br />
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P.s i love the movies!</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[What's Your Favorite Robot Noise?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:45:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[What's you favorite TF noise from the movies? I personally like the sound Starscream made when he...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What's you favorite <acronym title="Transformers">TF</acronym> noise from the movies? I personally like the sound Starscream made when he was walking and sound The Fallen made when he was lifting all the tanks and stuff up. What's yours?</div>

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			<title>How they get back up?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Paris Protoform... gets sams parents oversease and into rampage. 
Ravage.. goes from Diego Garcia...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Paris Protoform... gets sams parents oversease and into rampage.<br />
Ravage.. goes from Diego Garcia to the laurentian abyss..<br />
Barricade puportedly reformats to an R8 and travels to china..<br />
The constructicons get from the laurentian abyss to egypt! <br />
<br />
We know how they get down to earth, but how they get back up??? into space, i mean, coz thats where they go, coz thats where you see them come from. <br />
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This been buggin me, anyone got any theories?</div>

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			<title>Transformers 3 should go SIDEWAYS NOT UPWAYS!</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:07:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>who here agrees...or disagrees that Transformers 3 should no longer be any larger in scale unless...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>who here agrees...or disagrees that Transformers 3 should no longer be any larger in scale unless it can be done very very well...<br />
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first movie had a magic to it which seemed to be missed by <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> and this is a pleaa to have the third one be much more emotional, higher stakes, SIDEWAYS, and the ''magic'' that the first one put upon us.</div>

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			<title>Should Optimus Had Kept Jetfire Parts?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:00:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>mmmm. no way, i like jetoptimus but i prefer his original form :P, Vote</description>
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			<title>Where is the baddies symbol on The Fallens face?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:44:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Yeah guys I cant find it ,help.</description>
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			<title>RotF UK DVD release special / retailer-specific versions?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:33:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Does anyone know if there are any retailer-specific versions of RotF due in the UK?  For TF1, Play...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know if there are any retailer-specific versions of <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">RotF</acronym> due in the UK?  For <acronym title="Tramsformers 1">TF1</acronym>, Play did a nice steelbook version with a comic, and HMV had something &quot;special&quot;, too (I don't remember what it was - I got the Play one).<br />
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I can't see any specials listed on Amazon or Play, I'm just hoping some enlightened member here may have heard something :)</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Interpretations of ROTF Ending #2: Cavo's "Let it Go"?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:27:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've had this in the back of my mind since seeing ROTF in theaters, and haven't really been able to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've had this in the back of my mind since seeing <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> in theaters, and haven't really been able to work it out. Both &quot;What I've Done&quot; and &quot;New Divide&quot; function as closings to their respective movies with deep relevancy to the movies' meanings, plots, and motifs. However, I'm baffled by how the second closing to <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym>, &quot;Let it Go&quot;, relates to the plot of <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> at all or has any relevancy to the movie whatsoever. Who needs to let what go? And why?<br />
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<b>&quot;Let it Go&quot; by Tavo</b><br />
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<i>Wait it out till the light<br />
Take a breathe, say good night<br />
But don’t ever go away<br />
<br />
Wait around to find the time<br />
Only you can take what’s mine<br />
But don’t ever go away<br />
<br />
I’ll be waiting….I need to let it go<br />
<br />
(chorus)<br />
Fade it out into the light<br />
All these years we never get it right<br />
I need to let it go<br />
<br />
No more reasons to denied<br />
That I believed that you were mine<br />
I need to let it go<br />
<br />
A chance to change or stay the same<br />
One night with out the blame<br />
That don’t ever go away<br />
<br />
Only you can make it right<br />
To walk away with out a fight<br />
But don’t ever go away<br />
<br />
I’ll be waiting…I need to let it go<br />
<br />
(chorus)<br />
<br />
I wish you’d let me go…</i><br />
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			<title>Revenge of the the fallen kids comic</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:15:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>He he he was in Borders in Silverlink North East Uk and had a glance at the kids comic Soundwave...</description>
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			<title>Email Bay for Nimoy!</title>
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			<description>Zabgoth of the Axalonunderground.net asks Leonard Nimoy if he did any lines for Unicron in the 1985...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Zabgoth of the Axalonunderground.net asks Leonard Nimoy if he did any lines for Unicron in the 1985 Transformers: The Movie. Nimoy said no, contrary to popular belief. He does have interest in working in the Michael Bay Transformers movies, but hasn't been asked by Bay. He suggests that everyone who cares, write Bay an email about having him in part 3. Source: Zabgoth, Axalon Underground.net at New England Fan Experience Con <a href="http://www.nefx.com" target="_blank">www.nefx.com</a></div>

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			<title>Superion!!!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:33:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Silverbolt (B52) 
 
Image: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/bomber/b52/b52_07.jpg  
 
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Air Raid (F16)<br />
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FireFlight (F/A 18)<br />
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Skydive (F15E)<br />
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Slingshot (F35 JSF)<br />
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			<title>Cyclonus and Skywarp for TF3!!!!</title>
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			<description>This planes would kick it...... 
 
Cyclonus (SU-37 Super Flanker) 
 
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Cyclonus (SU-37 Super Flanker)<br />
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Skywarp (Euro Fighter Typhoon)<br />
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			<title>ROTF devastator toy commercial</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:59:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[was flipping through channels today, and saw a commercial for ROTF devastator's toy, on 'CW: 44,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>was flipping through channels today, and saw a commercial for <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> devastator's toy, on 'CW: 44, cable 12'<br />
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i dont have a the clip, but did anyone else see this? <br />
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(please move thread if its in the wrong section)</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Arcee dies due to Bay's temper]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:57:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Michael Bay Reveals 'Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen' Death - Movie News Story | MTV Movie News...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1608508/story.jhtml" target="_blank">Michael Bay Reveals 'Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen' Death - Movie News Story | MTV Movie News</a><br />
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Michael Bay doesn't like arcee so he kills her read full article via the link above</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[My Fictional Version of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" – Rambo Prime]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:39:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[As some of you may have heard, I've been working on some changes that I could make to Transformers:...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>As some of you may have heard, I've been working on some changes that I could make to Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, to make it a better film. So, this and future threads will just be me wanting your feedback on some ideas of mine for my &quot;What-if, Fictional&quot; version of the film.<br />
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Vote and comment.<br />
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Now, I'm not here to start an argument about Optimus' violence, or to say that it was horrible and degrading to the character, I'm just here to listen to your comments and suggestions on some of my ideas.<br />
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*Note: I'm alright with the physical violence, but it's the relishing of the violence (dialogue) that gets me.<br />
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I for one, liked what Optimus did in <i>Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen</i> to a certain extent.<br />
&gt;Shooting Demolishor point-blank: At first I was fine with this, but then as I thought about it more, it began to seem more merciless every time. My suggestion for this was for Demolishor to give the threat, and then for Optimus and Ironhide to still stand there; Optimus saying, <i>&quot;Not today.&quot;</i>, but then <b>NOT raising his weapon, but instead cutting back to a close-up of Demolishor's head. Demolishor's glowing red/yellow(?) optics dim...and dim...eventually going out completely, his head slumps to the side and he loses his colour as his spark is extinguished.</b> (Foreshadowing a similar event...)<br />
&gt;Ripping Grindor's face in half: I thought this was AWESOME! It was just Prime's way of saying, <i>&quot;I've had enough! I don't have time to deal with you!&quot;</i> and taking Grindor out as quickly as he can.<br />
&gt;Power-Up Optimus using Megatron's own weapon to shoot the latter in the face: AWESOME and hilarious! Similar to the 'Grindor' thing above, <i>&quot;I don't have time for you!&quot;</i> and showing how powerful the new Optimus was.<br />
&gt;Power-Up Optimus and the <i>&quot;Give me your face!&quot;</i>-thing: Seeing as how this has become an oft-quoted part of the Transformers-fandom, I myself find this quite funny. But, as this did cause the most uproar from what I've heard, what do you think Optimus could've said instead? My suggestion was that he could've replaced the dialogue <i>&quot;Give me your face!&quot;</i> with something like <i><b>&quot;It's over!&quot;</b></i> and <i>then </i>proceed to rip The Fallen's face off.</div>

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			<title>What kind of characterization would you like in TF3?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:09:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[In TF1, we've had a decent amount of characterization and less robot action, but in ROTF we had...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In <acronym title="Tramsformers 1">TF1</acronym>, we've had a decent amount of characterization and less robot action, but in <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> we had more robot action and less characterization, although in my opinion both movies were great. What kind of characterization would you like in TF3?<br />
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I'd like some decent characterization and lines for most of the characters, and when I say &quot;most&quot; I mean except the Protoforms, who, along with the new characters should fight in a huge fight, like in Lord of the Kings: Return of the King.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Orci won't share any info about what he's heard about Transformers 3]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Okay well I know before was different because Roberto was writing previous Transformers movies but...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Okay well I know before was different because Roberto was writing previous Transformers movies but I find this a big kicker. <br />
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<a href="http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=22635&amp;page=975" target="_blank">http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showt...22635&amp;page=975</a><br />
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Quote:Originally Posted by Master Fwiffo  <br />
So, Roberto, what's this I hear about you and Alex working for Hasbro TV? Eh? Eh?  <br />
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Hmmmm... where did you hear that?<br />
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&quot;Someone else asked earlier if we knew what was up with TF3 -- just wanted to say that it would be unfair for us to comment on anything we have heard since we are not officially part of it -- all I can say is we have full confidence it will be even better without us!&quot;<br />
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What he said was posted on November 6th. <br />
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It's not like something on his side of the fense would be in stake.  Right?<br />
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*sighs</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Ravage's cohort]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:48:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Is ther any mention of "who" the thin, made of marbles, 'con is? 
Ya know the one Ravage...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is ther any mention of &quot;who&quot; the thin, made of marbles, 'con is?<br />
Ya know the one Ravage regurgitates down the chimney?  As they escape you can see they are still two seperate bots.<br />
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I'm hoping he's a throwback to one of the original series.</div>

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			<title>The F Word was uttered once in the movie!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:15:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So I was just watching my ROTF dvd with the subtitles on.. And to my shock, the whole F word with...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I was just watching my <acronym title="Revenge of the Fallen">ROTF</acronym> dvd with the subtitles on.. And to my shock, the whole F word with the &quot;ing&quot; was uttered by Megan Fox in the scene when Sam was temporary &quot;dead&quot; in Egypt.. According to the subtitles, she had said something like &quot;F*&amp;(ing save him&quot; or something similar.. But it was no doubt in the subtitles that it was the F word...lol.. I had no idea while watching it in the cinemas.. Did anyone else notice this?<br />
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I mean don't get me wrong, I'm fine with that word but it kinda shocked me considering the fact that the F word was the last word I thought I would ever hear in a Transformers movie... Or maybe the subtitles just got it wrong.. Either way, that word wasn't used in the first movie of course...</div>

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			<title>Should sideways have just been barricade?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:34:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Does anyone else agree that with such a brief stint in this movie they would have preferred to see...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone else agree that with such a brief stint in this movie they would have preferred to see sidways replaced with barricade so those of us who didnt read the comics could get some closure on the most bad ass copformer ever??<br />
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lmk<br />
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Bairdimus</div>

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			<title>New TF3 Promo by Hasbro.</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
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For what it's worth, just...]]></description>
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For what it's worth, just thought I'd share it.</div>

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