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Old 05-31-2011, 04:02 PM   #1
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DC gets a reboot

With all new costumes apparently.

Newsarama.com : The DC UNIVERSE Reboots in September, New #1s Across the Line

This could have me picking up some new books.

This could also have me dropping a lot books. I already don't like superman's new costume and wonder woman's doesn't look much better than Lee's first attempt.

That's the problem with a reboot you can lose as may readers or more than you gain.

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Old 05-31-2011, 04:10 PM   #2
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This cannot be a total reboot. There is absolutely no way that they would abandon so much history just for a publicity stunt.

I'm just hoping that Secret Six will come out of this intact...
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:10 PM   #3
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Please tell me that there's wind blowing and everyone DOESN'T have spiked hair.

I was actually okay with Wondy's jacket design, but these new threads make her look like she's going to Spidey for fashion advice. :/
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:16 PM   #4
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Yes what the comics industry often fails to understand, is there is a reason classic costumes are classic. A new costume doesn't equal better story telling.

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I don't mind costume changes. I mind BAD costume changes. Ms. Marvel shedding her Captain Marvel clone outfit for the lightning bolt was awesome and helped get her out of his shadow. Stephanie Brown's Spoiler-ish Batgirl duds suit her better than Barbara's ever could. But the outfits in this snippet just look lazy. It's Jim Lee being all like "look how many tiny lines and shit I can draw."
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:46 PM   #6
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Superman's new costume may have more to do with a certain lawsuit than anything else. I think the Segals can legally claim the red underoos.

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I'm interested to see how this plays out, but I'm not optimistic for it actually accomplishing anything. I can't see it bringing in new readers since, with the exception of Barack Obama appearances, nothing brings new readers in to monthly comics any more. Assuming it's a complete/significant reboot, it will streamline continuity temporarily but, within a few years the continuity will once again be impenetrable to new readers (ie - the Ultimate universe). The redesigned costumes will stick around for a little while, but then many of the higher-profile characters will go back to their original costumes, either as a marketing event ("Superman's original costume returns in a special holographic foil, polybagged issue guest-starring Barack Obama!') or because the artists go back to drawing them the old way, intentionally or unintentionally. As for the continuity changes, most of those will be gone as soon as it becomes clear this isn't bringing in any new readers and they'll need another Crisis to fix everything again. Assuming the continuity changes don't snap back within a few years, they'll regress over time as the next wave of writers comes in and decides to make the DCU conform to "their" continuity. Also, there's no way that DC is going to walk away from the milestone of Action Comics #1000 (and Detective #1000, to a lesser extent) when they're so close, so the new numbering likely isn't going to stick for all titles either.

Personally, I'm going to give this a chance and see how things look in the new solicits. The only DCU titles I collect (in trades) are the GL books and a few Superman stories here and there, so this isn't going to affect too much that I buy. As a general idea, the statements about the "human aspect" of the characters and "real-world themes and events" makes me wary, since those things don't interest me and aren't why I read comics. This may also be a good spot to drop the GL titles permanently, since I don't relish the idea of sitting through all of the various concepts being reintroduced after Johns just finished introducing some of them and hasn't finished introducing others. The only situation where I'd definitely drop the GL books is if this reboot is taken as the opportunity to remove Guy, John and Kyle...but I don't see that happening, so withholding judgment, for now.

Concerning the costumes, much as I don't like Jim Lee's art, some of the designs are promising and might look better if drawn by Reis, Gleason or Mahnke. Wonder Woman's outfit isn't too bad and I like that they appear to have removed the underwear-outside-the-pants from Superman's outfit. The high collars need to go, though.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:53 PM   #8
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I never dug the jacket look on Wonder Woman because I thought it just looked odd, or that she'd raided Black Canary's closet. Or for clarification, there was no 'Wonder' to the costume for me. It didn't stand out or have anything about that was really distinctive about it that made her look like a superhero.

However from the snippet of the 'new costume' I saw in that link, this one goes too far back the other way. For Diana they need to grab a person with some historical background in Ancient Greek arms and armour, and make something from that.

However, I do love me some Justice League, so I might put in an order for a hard copy and figure out if my iPad can read the digital version.


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I already don't like superman's new costume and wonder woman's doesn't look much better than Lee's first attempt.
Are there any full pics of both new costumes floating around?

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I still hate the new w head band. The triangular one looked better.

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These reboots never last... especially iconic costume changes.

Nothing to worry about.
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